i think for me it's less a matter of survival and more about, how do you go on without something feeling tainted with constant failure. you get tired of doing the same things that don't work after a while right?

An interesting statement. Please elaborate if you will.

For the rest of you let me add some context. I was talking to someone who may have been a potential date. This happens all the time. I start talking to someone and getting through the 'getting to know you' phase of conversations when a sudden sadness hits me. I realize I've done this, multiple times in my past. Relationship after relationship, they all start out the same. Why keep doing this if it could just likely end up the same as well?

It is the same with anything. Take your job. For the last however many years you've been working there. It's the same thing day after day after day after day. Money comes in money goes out. Unless you're rich enough to have anything left over which is not the case for most Americans. While that's making effort to move life forward, is it really moving it forward? Seems stuck to me. Pointless and totally unrewarding. I got to go to work, bust my ***ass, to have nothing left over and stay right where I am.

And in case you're one to fall back on stupid stuff like 'go to school' well guess what? I did that too.

What do you do when everything seems like a crock? When it all seems like a game of psychology to get you to work for what everyone else wants and not doing what would benefit you best? Wage slaves are real!

Nothing works.

I'm not looking for a solution to every problem I know it doesn't exist. Especially here. But if anyone has ever felt this jaded or jipped because life seems a total crock, I'm very interested in hearing how you've been coping with it is all.

Everything we do seems like a repetitive mess. Regardless of what working class or education level we're in, or how long you've managed to keep your crap from falling apart. Some of us are stronger and better than others and that's okay.

But no matter who you are, you're probably going through more hassle than any reward so, how do you keep at it??

You may be a successful business person, owning your own business, and making money. But I bet it didn't start out that way. Weeks, months, years of failure before you showed a profit? How did you keep at it? What made you keep going? Why didn't you feel like you were beating a dead horse and wasting your life?

To the person here who has had 20 long term relationships and they all failed until the 21st, what made you keep going? How'd you feel like it wasn't a futile effort? A pointless game of numbers? Odds being against you are so high? What drives us to keep doing this same crazy crap over and over and over again?

They say the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again expecting a different result. THAT'S ALL WE DO!!!!!!

Relationship failed? On to the next one!
Business failed? Open another one? o.O
Fall down lots? Pick yourself up and keep going, over and over and over again!

These are just a couple examples but we do this with EVERYTHING WE DO.

I feel like a rat in a maze. Like someone is out there watching over us wondering "how long are they going to keep up this futile behavior?"

Like it's an experiment. Someone else's experiment on us....

That's a good point. But it makes sense if it's a learning thing as you suggest. What happens when you never seem to learn anything though?

If it were a knowledge thing, we'd have a real science to love. We'd understand what makes that tick. Does anyone 'know' what love is about?

I think we get a bit conceited once we've gathered a certain amount of knowledge because we assume it means anything. LOL

Our knowledge of the world and space we live in changes every day.

Even what we learned from an experience can be made invalid the next day. No joke! I've seen it happen! Just look at cursive writing for example! lol
Thought you needed it, now you don't!

I feel like I can't keep up! :\

BTW: Staying in survival mode is not healthy! Fix that!

ya know i'd be happy if settling for less actually worked but in a lot of cases it doesn't? i dunno how much less some people can take before giving up and admitting total worthlessness.
even if you're not at the bottom rung of the poor yet, do you have any sense of security that you can't be?

for a LOT of people it's russian roulette.

do you know some people buy those stupid lottery tickets every week and somehow win and turn it into a money making thing? i still agree with you that the odds should logically make them all idiots. but it's a lot harder to call them stupid when i've watched them cash a $100/$200/$500 ticket after they only paid 5 or 10 bucks. i had to end up deciding that there are just some that's meant to play and some who just shouldn't. knowing which one you are may make you an idiot or not maybe. who really knows?

as far as the grander scheme, i'll be completely honest, for anyone who has had a harder time of life than i, my hat's off to ya. i don't know how ya did it and if you're still here even, you SHOULD be proud. if i'd gone through some of the sh*t some folks i've talked to have gone through, i might not be here to talk about it after.

there are some people in this world that are stronger than others in some ways or another.

i'm sure we all have our own crap we have to bear and just carry with us. some of it heavier than others.

so i kinda feel like everything else in life is just as much a gamble as the lottery. after a while, how life hits you and with how heavy a pile of crap, seems little different to me than a roll of the dice.

tomorrow, from the moment you wake up, you'll see how heavy the bag of crap that life throws at ya is gonna be lol

we all will. (i mean unless you die in your sleep or something hereafter forbid)

Initially that could make sense. But what if you spend, say a decade at trying to make a baseball career. You get out there 100% of the time and swing and swing and swing. But you keep missing and missing and missing until one day you look up, it's ten years later, you realize you're at 0% hits much less any home-runs and your chances of being entered into the HOF are laughable at best. And on top of it all your secret weapon that should have been a home run when you needed it most and could have made a difference was....called unfairly: "YOU'RE OUT!"

You had the charisma, you choked up on your bat, you checked and re-checked your stance, got the best advice from all the pros, and still after a decade, Nothing, At, All.

Would you not, after becoming the joke of every other professional baseball player in the country having consistently laughed at you, finally just come to admit that maybe, just maybe, you really really suck at baseball?

And if you're worried it's the game I guess it could be. But it's either the game or you and what are the odds?

And you can't just go try football or basketball because you spent the potential best years of your professional life stuck in baseball something you totally sucked at. So now what?

What now? Still be all, "Go for the 30%! Sis boom bah!" No you'd start writing posts like the op.

Yours is a good reply but to me, to someone like me, and it's totally true I could be wrong, it seems a bit young.

Might just be me though. And my old age. And lots enough of experience with life...

I dunno. If that meant anything I would know. So I dunno.

Wait...Wasn't that Will Smith that said that?

I love guys who are like "Yah I made some bad deals and lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in my early career, but man if I hadn't have kept getting out there and screwing up I wouldn't have landed those 7 hit movies that turned me into a billionaire and owns one of the world's most expensive cribs. Keep ya head up! Try try again. Fail often, fail early! ....sucka."

Yah of course he'd say sh*t like that LOL

This confuses me. The neg...is that a negative? The negative is attractive? So I must assume that attractiveness in this case is bad. So the negative is attractive. This must mean that the positive is unattractive.

The truth is ugly and often hurts? Am I playing this game right? XD

alright...but tomorrow i want my lessons!

I have been very patient. I've continued to be very patient. I became an authority on patience. I'm out of patience.
LOL

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The same meaning could be found if I said sometimes automatic weapon fire sometimes misses school children. It's anecdotal at best.

And I think there's both. Some people work really hard and deserve to be the winners they become. Some people work really hard and get sh*t on their whole life. Some folks jerk off their whole life and land the big lotto jack pot so whatever. That's just a numbers game. That's actually three. So I think there's three.

Everything's kind of a lottery when you think about it. Maybe I should just start *******jerking off and playing the lottery.

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i believe you. easily. this site treats us all like 3 year olds. it's f*cking old!

Look...sometimes when 24 hours has gone by, I don't always remember what we're even talking about. I just don't care enough to read from the beginning over and over again. I do the best I can ok? lol

Sometimes, I even forget I already replied and reply again. Yah it's stupid. But it's real. XD

but what makes that ok? maybe i like my wheel sittin right where it is? hmmmm? just cause some over-prideful man-eater says it does? o.O

hmmmmmmmm? XD