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Now that there is little doubt that Trump did what he was accused of...

I admit i've never heard that before. I'm also confused as to how that could be physically possible. No one at my polling place had a french accent.

I guess mitt romney doesn't know that either, or at least i dont remember him making a stink about it.

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I'm getting a volunteer "job" in the area of human trafficking.

Congrats on the job that sounds amazing.

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Now that there is little doubt that Trump did what he was accused of...

I don't get why my replies get flagged for approval sometimes :(

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Now that there is little doubt that Trump did what he was accused of...

Anonymous wrote:
Why are any of you even bothering paying attention to the impeachment trials? They're just a tv show and politics always has been some form of entertainment or another.

Haven't you figured out by now no one gives af? And even if they did when they promised to serve you as an elected official, once they get in office they stop giving af.

You don't matter, your opinions don't matter. Clearly they do what they want. Especially now that laws can changed just because someone powerful enough says they do.

We're ******fucked. Can at least respect Mulvaney for being blunt. "Get over it."

Either the politicians aren't listening to us. Or there's something wrong with us. Either way it's unwinnable. This ****shit hole should just start over. It's time to give up and try again.


They say if you have an issue to "call your congressman"


LOL

6 months later the motherfucker sent out a generic autogenerated robo-mail response that said nothing. Yeah so what now? lol


SOL!

There are plenty of times when public officials, one way or another, or for one reason or another, bow to public opinion. They also have a strong hand in making that public opinion through their own actions and words, but it does go both ways.

I have written to my own local congressperson and senators during the impeachment, but they were not long, detailed letters...I just wrote to them expressing in a few brief words my feelings on impeachment. I'm just one of their constituents, and I'm sure they only skim through the letters that they receive unless something about it stands out to them enough to give it a closer look. I am under no illusion that my letters would be one of those, so I wrote accordingly.

My senator did write back to one but it was a highly generic response that was clearly copy and pasted, but they did at least read the first sentence.

The only way you would change their mind about something is if you got together with a few hundred or thousand other people and emailed about the same topic or concern. So my hope is that other people in my district and state are sending them stuff similar to my own concerns.

In any case, what public officials do matters. I think it's less depressing to live under the illusion that they might care at least a LITTLE about my feelings on it. Otherwise what's the point?

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Now that there is little doubt that Trump did what he was accused of...

Since george bush senior was elected, there has only been one time that a republican prez won the popular vote. GW's second term. He was an incumbent. And he only won it by the skin of his teeth. About 2 and a half points.

If that is a trend, Trump is the worst thing that has happened to the Republican party. The door of corruption swings both ways and its going to hit their party hard in the fanny. And the whole country will pay the price.

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Now that there is little doubt that Trump did what he was accused of...

Mitt Romney's speech got me legit choked up.

https://youtu.be/uawb5xS87bo

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Now that there is little doubt that Trump did what he was accused of...

HelpCop wrote:

How do you justify asking of me something of which you never did when the time came?

Because it's in your best interest to if you don't want to normalize the kind of corruption he's done and will continue to do.

I think what you're refering to with Obama is a criticism of his policies which is perfectly reasonable and not a supported in fact allegation of corruption like we have with Trump.

I was always pretty uninterested in politics until trump and i admit, some people i have helped elect have done things i disagree with and i should be better, both at criticizing when i disagree and giving signs of approval when i do. I didnt even know who my local congressman was before this started. I think im going to be better about it in the future.

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Now that there is little doubt that Trump did what he was accused of...

I think you're just using the Trump issue as an excuse to vent your frustrations with the Democratic Party. I don't blame you for being disappointed and frustrated with them...a lot of people who are registered democrats are. I'm independent myself and I'm also disappointed.

But nothing in what you just posted is a defense of Trump's actions, you didn't even mention his name once. Or anything about the case against him. You're just repeating what I've heard dozens of republicans say, either implicitly or explicitly: Trump is corrupt but we don't like Democrats, and that counts more than what is right.

Your "there's two kinds of people" philosophy works beautifully in that way of thinking. If trump wins, so do you. Well, he probably will, so congrats on that and it'll be fine in the short term for sure, but not in the long haul. The republicans have opened a can of worms that they can't close now. I already see one or two Democratic politicians who I think are taking several pages out of the Trump playbook. And maybe they'll be just as corrupt and win and then the Democrats are going grin when Republicans say "but what about he rule of law" and they'll shout back "Remember when Trump did it tho?"

That's just how corruption works, it doesn't go away because the person doing it also did good and right things. It leaves a legacy that we will continue to live with forever.

I'm not asking people to become independents like myself and I'm certainly not asking them to become Democrats. I'm not even necessarily saying that Trump should definitely be impeached.

Shucks, I won't even try to talk you out of not voting for him since you're convinced that any Democratic candidate is and will be corrupt. If that's what you really believe, bias or not, follow your conscience.

All I'm saying is, ESPECIALLY if you're a Trump supporter...hold him accountable. That doesn't necessarily mean don't vote for him. Write him a letter. Tweet about how you're disappointed in his actions. Say that American Presidents should not ask foreign leaders to investigate their American citizens to your family and friends. Or something, I don't know. But do SOMETHING.

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I feel like having a fosters.

Anonymous wrote:
Yes beer.
I hardly ever drink. But 24 oz beer really sounds nice on a 3 degree evening

Fosters is nice, I like the lager, I've never been big on ale.

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I feel like having a fosters.

Are you talking about the beer?

I mean, don't if you're underage, otherwise...I think foster's is ok, it's better than a lot of american beer.

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