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Sorry that I have been so scarce...

Never got the flu shot- never got the flu.

Same deal with everybody in my family- except one of my cousins who got the flu shot... And has since gotten the flu every couple of years.

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Iโ€™m all for science and medicine, but the concept behind why the flu shot exists and how it works doesnโ€™t sit well with me. I know it introduces the virus to your body in a small sample so that your body can โ€œget usedโ€ to fighting it- but it seems to have more of an adverse effect on everybody that I talk to. Seems like a better idea to just be healthy and listen to your body.

Padre- welcome back to life. ๐Ÿ˜„

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How to stop mass shootings.

And I don't own a gun, but if I was told I wasn't allowed to defend myself- I'd be pretty angry.

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How to stop mass shootings.

Kids don't generally shoot up schools period, but there are exceptions.

The point is- there is no 1 cause. Sure, increase security at school- then he goes to the library instead. Try to help the ones with mental health problems- it's inevitable that a few crazy's will slip through the cracks. Ban guns- they'll buy it off the black market.

Killers are killers. Taking away a gun is just going to make them use something else. There aren't "gun killers" who, without access to a gun, would live completely peaceful lives until you put a gun in their hand and they go crazy. If a killer decides to kill, they're going to do it.

So yes- in my opinion, seeing as it's completely impossible to eradicate the world of all killers, just like it's impossible to eradicate the world of all guns, the best method is to allow people to defend themselves instead of leaving them helpless and sitting ducks when a bad guy eventually DOES get a gun or some other violent weapon. Because they will. No matter what laws are passed or how hard you make it to get a gun.

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How to stop mass shootings.

He posted on the internet that he was going to shoot up his school. The FBI even saw that information and chose to do nothing with it, despite the fact that he bought a semi-automatic rifle the year before... But sure. If he looked up how to build a bomb they would have arrested him that night.

There are few bombings because there are easier methods of killing people, and more effective methods- like guns. Bombs are dangerous to build, and if you're not careful you could end up killing yourself. I'm not saying a gun isn't an easy and effective weapon for killing people. I'm just saying there are a million other ways of doing the job if you set your mind to it, which these types of people do.

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How to stop mass shootings.

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Yes. When in doubt, blame mental health. Its all ifs and buts. The fact is, if he didnt have access to guns, he wouldn't have taken that many innocent lives.

I would agree if he didn't have access to any weapons, then yes. Less lives would have been lost.
But he could have easily built a bomb. Waited for the students to gather in an auditorium and probably kill and harm a LOT more than 17.

Even with a knife, in a dark auditorium he can cause a crazy amount of damage.

Luckily he didn't wait and plan his attack for a time when people were more grouped together.

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How to stop mass shootings.

Are you sure there wouldn't have been? There is no reload time, no ammo to worry about. Sure. Maybe not 17. Maybe there would have been more. We can't say for sure. We don't and can't know for sure.

But what we DO know is that if that kid was mentally stable and well taken care of, even if he had full access to every gun in the world- 0 deaths would have occurred.

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Nowhere in the world is safe from other people, unfortunately. And the fact is- it's people that kill people. Not guns, knives, or whatever else. Those are just objects that would sit peacefully if people didn't use them to harm others.

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How to stop mass shootings.

I wish we lived in a world where weapons didn't exist, but the fact is that we do. And if weapons exist, there will be people that abuse those weapons and hurt other people with them. That's unavoidable.

Taking away guns means no deaths?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5251268/knife-cri...

Then why are knife crimes and violent deaths on the rise in the UK?

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How to stop mass shootings.

I don't understand the rationale that an inanimate object can be blamed for the actions of a person.

The point isn't the stats or numbers. ANYTHING is dangerous if it's put in the wrong hands. Guns can SAVE lives in the right hands.

I also don't understand the reasoning behind thinking that taking guns away would have suddenly saved those people. Do you honestly believe that if that kid didn't have a gun, that nobody would have gotten hurt/killed when he finally went through with his threats?

Is there honestly doubt that if each of the teachers in that school were armed and trained that the kid would never have gotten as far as he did?

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Rather than being insulting, you should try to understand other perspectives. Try to figure out why people think the way they do. It's much more effective than just grouping an entire country and assuming they're lower than you for having a differing opinion. (And, for the record, many Americans are for the removal of guns - Likewise, many non-Americans want to arm every citizen because they believe it's safer.)

Guns make some people feel safe. Some people own dogs. They like big scary dogs that bark so they can put "Beware of dog" signs on their door and fence- that way, burglars will avoid their house, right? So that makes them safer, right? But hey- other people train dogs to kill. Should we ban dogs as well? And knives, while we're at it. Sure. You don't have a problem with dogs. But some people are terrified of dogs. I personally know people that can't handle being in the same room as dogs because they're so afraid of them.
"But they just don't understand dogs." "Not all dogs are like that." Tell that to the girl that got attacked by her neighbors dog when she was 6.
The people that want to put up laws against guns don't understand guns. Not all gun owners go on killing sprees. Dogs have killed people as well. So what's the difference? Honestly, the only difference is that some people like dogs and some people like guns. People that like something want to try to defend it and say it's harmless in the right hands. But again- the problem isn't the "right" hands. It's the wrong ones.

There were MANY signs that the kid was unstable. Including, but not limited to the fact that he literally posted on the internet that he was going to shoot up a school months prior.
There was no doubt at all that he was mentally unstable. But still- people want to blame the gun. The inanimate object. Because the tool planned the whole thing, drove the kid to the school, put itself in his hand, and shot all of the people. But no- if nobody had access to guns, that kid would have lived a long and happy life and wouldn't hurt anybody, right?

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