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My roomate is crazy.


Im too busy with my life and projects to interact with crazy.
She gets to me with her craziness.
She is using the landlord to support her and her 26 year old so called kid.
No she isnt putting out.
She just knows how to play this guy.
Runs up utility bills.
Has the landlord drive her everywhere.
She doesnt contribute a penny. Neither does her kid.
The never leave the house unless she goes shopping.
She threatened me today to have the landlord throw me out.
I accidently walked into the bathroom while her kid was on the toilet.
I told the kid to lock the door. They both verbally abused me for an hour.
I dont know if the landlord would throw me out.
He knows my rent is subsidizing her free living .
Its the dead of winter.
I need this place and threats are not to be taken lightly.
What should I do?

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duh.. find somewhere else to live.. i lived with crazy b4 .. not worth staying and putting up with that crap

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Ill try but there is a housing shortage and rents are unaffordable here.

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if cheap is priority. beggars cant be choosers.

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I wonder if legally you have recourse here...I mean, if she's not contributing to rent, can he force you to have her as a roomate?

I've never rented...do you lose your deposit if you get thrown out for no reason? Indeed, CAN you be thrown out for no reason if you're paying your rent and your lease is not up?

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Also if you can find a responsible roommate, the expensive places you can't afford right now might become much more affordable.

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I'm a landlord. I have two rooms that I rent out in my basement. I also have single family homes that I rent out. Rents here are crazy (Colorado)...a ROOM in a basement will go for over $600/month...more the closer you get to Denver, Boulder, Colo Springs, mountains. I've had room mates off and on through the years. Mostly, having room mates is a blessing. Sometimes, it really sucks.

Currently, we've had room mates pretty much non stop for 3 years.

To answer your questions directly:
1. When renting a room in a person's primary residence, Fair Housing Act does not apply. The landlord (home owner/person who you live WITH) can discriminate any way they want to.
2. Once you are in the home, however, you CANNOT be kicked out for no reason, unless you are renting month to month. Even then, you have to be given a 30 day notice in most states
3. Do you have a contract? It's important to have rules and regs in writing...really important
4. Do you know if you are "month to month" or if you have signed a lease with a specific term?
5. The biggest thing to know is that each state has its own laws around room mates....as does EACH municipality. For instance, Fort Collins, north of Denver, allows room mates on a U+2 basis (You and any of your blood relatives + 2 unrelated people....but then bedrooms play a part. There can't be more than 2 ppl per bedroom....and in many municipalities, they will count a living room as "bedroom space" for "counting people..." in other words, a 3 bedroom house can have 8 people (living room counts too, for some reason...this is new in this area). In some municipalities, you cannot evict between November and March, even for non payment of rent

The bottom line, with renters' rights, is that it varies GREATLY state by state. It also varies within each municipality

Finally,

I do have a "room mate" who doesn't pay much rent (she pays $100/month) and it's because I took her in a few months ago because she was in a bad situation. She is the one not paying rent and having the LL "wrapped around her finger...." (sorta). However, if she EVER harassed or made life miserable for one of the paying tenants, she would be in big, big trouble....

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*also....having 10 people living in my house...walking in on someone once in a while is a thing that's going to happen with so many people. Locking doors on bathrooms will prevent that

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Pepper j.
This isnt a dispute with a landlord.
Its a dispute with a roomate who is dispicable

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Bullshit you don't need that place. Get the f**k out of there!

If it's true your roomy isn't paying she's full of ****shit when she threatens to throw you out. She's just using it as an excuse to act the way she wants to act.

If you're the money, money talks. Take it the F**K away from those assholes for a while and see if they change how they act.

If they want to get legal about it, and you can prove you've been paying rent and she hasn't, she'll be the one tossed on her stupid lying ***ass.


Get real all of you.

(This is why I refuse to live with roommates. Will not tolerate anyone's bullshit. And most people are full of total bullshit.)

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Thanks annomous. Real gratitude

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PepperJ wrote:
I've had room mates off and on through the years. Mostly, having room mates is a blessing. Sometimes, it really sucks.

Currently, we've had room mates pretty much non stop for 3 years.

To answer your questions directly:
1. When renting a room in a person's primary residence, Fair Housing Act does not apply. The landlord (home owner/person who you live WITH) can discriminate any way they want to.
2. Once you are in the home, however, you CANNOT be kicked out for no reason, unless you are renting month to month. Even then, you have to be given a 30 day notice in most states
3. Do you have a contract? It's important to have rules and regs in writing...really important
4. Do you know if you are "month to month" or if you have signed a lease with a specific term?
5. The biggest thing to know is that each state has its own laws around room mates....as does EACH municipality. For instance, Fort Collins, north of Denver, allows room mates on a U+2 basis (You and any of your blood relatives + 2 unrelated people....but then bedrooms play a part. There can't be more than 2 ppl per bedroom....and in many municipalities, they will count a living room as "bedroom space" for "counting people..." in other words, a 3 bedroom house can have 8 people (living room counts too, for some reason...this is new in this area). In some municipalities, you cannot evict between November and March, even for non payment of rent

The bottom line, with renters' rights, is that it varies GREATLY state by state. It also varies within each municipality

Finally,

I do have a "room mate" who doesn't pay much rent (she pays $100/month) and it's because I took her in a few months ago because she was in a bad situation. She is the one not paying rent and having the LL "wrapped around her finger...." (sorta). However, if she EVER harassed or made life miserable for one of the paying tenants, she would be in big, big trouble....

So...yeah. I was putting the LL thing in there to let you know I have experience in the things you are talking about. I've rented TO room mates/room mate situations.

Followed up with the times I've HAD room mates. Laws. Things that can and can't go wrong

I HAVE a room mate who pays. I ALSO HAVE a room mate who DOESN'T pay. I can see your situation clearly as a result.

I also asked if you had a lease or if you were on a month to month or verbal type of agreement. All of that matters. If it's verbal...move out. Find another place. If you signed paperwork, that matters....I know the law inside and out in Colorado. It varies state by state. As I stated.

If you are in a state other than CO., and you have signed a lease or any sort of paperwork, you need to review your paperwork to determine your rights.

Yep. I know you have a room mate situation. I answered to that specific issue....also in telling you that YOUR SITUATION will vary depending on whether or not you signed a lease. Even if you DID sign a lease, I could give you advice on that.

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This is the response of the landlord.........."Going forward, keep your cat in your room.
Stay out of everyone else's space.
Kitchen is off limits when anyone else is cooking. If you should cook, provide your own dishes, etc.. Stay out of everyone else's cabinets.
I would appreciate it from now on that you just worry about yourself. It is none of your business who pays what. No more confrontations. Stay away from my friends from now on.
Also, remember if the bathroom door is closed and the light is on, do not touch the door. Make sure that you turn everything off when you leave the house.
You are paid through December 31, 2019.
Just reiterating our conversation.
Marty

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No lease. Month to month.

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START LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PLACE RIGHT NOW.
Craigslist, newspapers, fellow employees, friends, family -
What ever it takes.

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Ok... Slash am I right. Are they crazy

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Anonymous wrote:
This is the response of the landlord.........."Going forward, keep your cat in your room.
Stay out of everyone else's space.
Kitchen is off limits when anyone else is cooking. If you should cook, provide your own dishes, etc.. Stay out of everyone else's cabinets.
I would appreciate it from now on that you just worry about yourself. It is none of your business who pays what. No more confrontations. Stay away from my friends from now on.
Also, remember if the bathroom door is closed and the light is on, do not touch the door. Make sure that you turn everything off when you leave the house.
You are paid through December 31, 2019.
Just reiterating our conversation.
Marty

Are all of these "rules" in a written contract? If not, he can't enforce them now unless he writes them up and YOU sign them

I would counter with the bathroom thing about putting a lock on the door and informing everyone in the house that they should lock the bathroom door, just because people blindly stumble into a bathroom sometimes.

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Also Im afraid they may try to harm my cat if I leave the house.
Will someone talk to me over the phone.
I think I need law enforcement.

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Yes, you're right. Marty is being a dick head and has no right to treat you without respect.

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Also Im afraid they may try to harm my cat if I leave the house.
Will someone talk to me over the phone.
I think I need law enforcement.

Try to not get LEO involved....that will escalate things and make your living situation even worse until you can move.

HOWEVER, if they are harming you physically, by all means, call LEO

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Ok.

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Basically the roomate has a green light to disrespect me and if I retort ill be on the streets in the cold.

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Also....I just have to LOL. About the kitchen being "off limits." When you rent a room, those common areas are usually for EVERYONE. I KNOW that there are times when I've been cooking and my room mates got in the way...or I got in their way.

Sometimes, I have posted a planned menu on the fridge so that everyone knows I'm planning to cook on which days

Sometimes, I've offered to cook for room mates. I charge them price per plate....I'm ****anal and frugal and I always figure out how much a meal costs and how much it costs for each serving. I post a menu for the week of what will be cooked. Room mates circle what they want to eat. I have price per plate plus a dollar for them to eat. Its still far cheaper than going out to eat or buying and cooking for one....I love that, because I'm cooking anyway. and it gets everyone else out of the kitchen

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Basically the roomate has a green light to disrespect me and if I retort ill be on the streets in the cold.

Honestly, he cannot kick you out. That's illegal. Some states are more LL friendly and some are more tenant friendly....and primary residences are a whole other ball game (room mate situations)....but NOBODY is allowed to kick someone out for those "infractions" you listed above....without a proper notice. Which depends mostly on your state (10 days/30 days/etc)

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Ok. Pepper j. You actually know me. We have been friend for years.
Im too ashamed to admit Im in this situation

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What situation? You're not doing anything wrong

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I know.

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Should I keep a calm low profile until I find a new home

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Are you in the US?

Keep calm and a low profile until you find a new home. But find one ASAP.

Are you going to be looking for another room to rent? If so, let me help you with the contract....

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Does your current LL say that you have to give notice if you want to move out? And if so, is it in writing?

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Im in The usa.

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Not in writing.

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But I cant live here with the abuse. Now from ll and roomie

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Okay...the states that are the most tenant friendly are VA, DC, NY, CA, WA, OR, PA

In those states, you will have more rights

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All of the southern states: TX to FL and GA...along with CO, WY....are very LL friendly

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Nope. Im not thete

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Roomie closes bathroom for hours.
Puts on light and closes door.
I cant even use bathroom

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If you're in none of the above, you're in an in between area.

But room mate situations have different laws from renting a whole house

One thing you could look up is your municipality rules for renting. You might be surprised that your city requires people who rent a room to "claim" the profits and pay taxes...or to follow certain types of rules with number of people

If your LL is supposed to "claim" the income and doesn't...you might have something over his head.

Is there a second bathroom?

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and...what does someone do for HOURS?


(I had a roomie who watched ****porn for hours in the bathroom) (sigh)

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Dam.
Im like not into mental illness around me.
Im just trying to be healthy.

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I really thought my landlord would have put her in her place.
Its betrayal.

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Dont mean to pic your brains.

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It's tough. I'm sorry

We have a male room mate who has lived with us for nearly 3 years.

We took in a young lady almost a year ago. She's my son's friend and was in a tough spot. We had room and took her in

She has caused ALL SORTS of issues with my room mate. The one who PAYS.

My other room mate had friends over recently. They were playing music semi loud...middle of the day.

She banged on his door and screamed about how he needed to stfu and said she would kick his ***ass; and his friend's too

Those folks who were visiting my male room mate were walking out the door when I came home. I heard the story

I ran outside and chased them down and apologized profusely. She knew I did this. She could see i was pissed at her

I told them to come back

Once all were in my living room, I said, "NOBODY will feel unwelcome here. Not the people who live here and not their friends who visit."

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Dont mean to pic your brains.

It's fine :)

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So now you know.

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Calling in a min

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Hope you're doing better and will be able to figure out a viable way out

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By the way pepper j. Thete is a lock in the bathroom. The roomate didnt lock the door. Its his fault.
They are both mother and 26 year old kid giving me total hell for a common mistake.

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Ok... Slash am I right. Are they crazy

It's worse than crazy - what you're experiencing are the inner workings of a maternal and fraternal co-dependency that's become rather sick.
It's an unholy trinity alliance of mother/son/landlord.

And, after reading the above, I see you have some concern over legal matters, etc.
I got news, people generally don't like Red Tape and these jerks aren't litigious - fux the "contract" and zoom out.

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Ok bro. Will do

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Ok bro. Will do

Hey....try not to throw the baby out with the bath-water.
Do your best NOT to be homeless.

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I know. It kills me to see two con artists milk the landlord dry for 10 years. And somehow believe they are his friends. No friend would ever take so much and give nothing back. They the mother and son do have a sick twisted relationship. Never ever ever leave the house. Its twisted man.
I want to shake sense in the landlord and tell this idiot that he is working 12 hours a day to support these cons.
So the cook him a meal at night. With his food and they sit on their fu ck in ***ass all day trying to make trouble with me.
I feel good I put them in their place the other day despite the landlord hearing about it.
She knows Im on to her
I get sick to my stomach Im surrounded by evil .literally.
I am looking for a new place but avoiding anymore confrontation.

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Con artists and twisted mom son relationships make me sic to my stomach .litetally.
Fo now Ill avoid her.
She knows Im on to her despite the landlord not approving.
Funny slash my kindness is seen as a weakness and when I put aside my kindness and show strength people are shocked.
Man. Maybe I should get tatoos and drive a loud harley so people wont mess with me.

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All I can say is, the world we live in is becoming more apparent -

Things (attitudes) are really speeding up.

Bottom line....it really has grown to Biblical proportions. Brace yourself.

I was recently thrown out from where I was staying - accused of being "rude" and "embarrassing."

Hahaha.....really? Well, as much as I would like to tell that story, I'm just not in a mood for all the typing - plus, I'm not yet ready to relive the experience.

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Fair enough

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I just got another intimidating note
"Hey man, going forward rent payments will need to be paid by cash only and before 10:00 am on the 1st of each month. I will no longer accept a personal check or any other forms of payment. Cash only. Just a reminder that this arrangement is just on a month-to-month basis here. Your stay here is currently paid through December 31, 2019. To continue your stay, a payment of $500 cash will be due by 10:00 am on January 1, 2020.
Thank you,
Marty

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Nice note - er, umm, piece of evidence. I'd keep that a while.

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Is he saying Im being thwown out al

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Is he saying Im being thwown out al

I don't think so. Seems he's just making a reason to bark.

Here's the thing with this tight-a$$, he wants to give you the impression that if you don't pay at such-and-such time that he's gonna kick you out.
....Okay....that may be true. But, what is also true is the fact he has to go through the headache of finding another tenant fast enough to secure a full $500 (plus deposit) and be gullible enough to put up with ALL of their combined $#!t....
I don't think that's happening anytime soon.
Hang in there, bud, (but start looking for another loft). Try Craigslist.

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Im a dam good tennet. Hes projecting things about me that simply isnt true.
Yes I stood up for myself when his women attanked me for hours.
Being thrown out in the cold is serious.
I want to counter threaten him with attorneys and renters rights but I get the feeling he would escalate a bad situation.
I dont need this on Christmas.
Thank you big al

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Its totally an abuse of power also.
Hes subtly implying homelessness when it 18 degrees outside.
Ugly man

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Isnt that note extortion. Its saying if ypu dont pay by 10.00 am you will be thrown out.
Al. Is it exportion

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Firt, there are certain laws when it comes to tenants and winter. You just can't kick someone out nor can you shut down their electrical source of heat. Someone bites the bullet for a while.

The only thing I can say is stay demure and complacent. Roll with the punches - stay out of the way if you can - say as little as possible.

You need to get into some form of public housing. At least the rules are general and not so personal - bound to the whimsical abuses of the homeowner.

No, the note is not extorsion.

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