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Everyone's constantly going on about mental health.

Its kind of annoying.

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Mental issues has become a fad now.
People use bipolar as an excuse to be an A hole.
Everone seems to want to declare some mental issues .
Society has-lost it.
One more person tells me they are bipolar and I will wrestle them to the ground

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I feel almost embarrassed to even admit anything mental health now cos its almost like its in fashion.

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Its an excuse to make people consider themselves mentally ill so they take pills and so people can be denied testing

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It diminishes people who really are mentally ill.

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I think talking about mental health is important. I don’t know anyone who would consider being mentally ill “fashionable”.

Y’all need to make better friends if you’re surrounding yourselves with people who self diagnose and use it as an excuse to behave poorly.

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Its very important to talk about mental health issues. As-long as its real and not made up. Big difference

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Its very important to talk about mental health issues. As-long as its real and not made up. Big difference

I think there are far more people out there who have undiagnosed or untreated mental health issues than there are “attention seekers” and 1. I’m not a doctor and 2. I would rather take a cry for help at face value than assume it’s a lie.

I knew this one girl who was EXACTLY the kind of person you’re talking about. She was... exasperating. And she threatened to kill herself all of the time - if her bf broke up with her, or if my (then bf) didn’t stop her bf from leaving her, etc. She had self diagnosed mental illnesses aplenty and she constantly lied.

I didn’t believe her and then one day she did kill herself.

So I take that ****shit pretty seriously now.

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Mental health (like anything having to do with health) is mostly propaganda pushed by the industrial health care system.
It's about money
It's about power
It's about "conditioning" the public at large.

It's all about that large gray-zone of questionability because you can keep it going. Never speak or diagnose on firm or absolute terms, no - keep the wheel going.

The American Journal of Medicine has said there is no one without some "mental disorder."

Like AA - would have you believe that you're an alcoholic if you drink wine with your meal....once a year (quick, get help)...

Just remember kids, your problems are special and no one walking the earth has them quite the way you do. You are the more deserving - you are the most special, you are number one.

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I knew this one girl who was EXACTLY the kind of person you’re talking about. She was... exasperating. And she threatened to kill herself all of the time - if her bf broke up with her, or if my (then bf) didn’t stop her bf from leaving her, etc. She had self diagnosed mental illnesses aplenty and she constantly lied.

I didn’t believe her and then one day she did kill herself.

I don't put up with bullshit in life much less death. This girls death in on her and not you. I've known plenty of types like this - proud, bold, attention seekers always right, never wrong and always a victim and continually hysterical of minor issues.

Let yourself off the hook.

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Big pharma will never satisfy their greedy ways.
They have convinced every person on the planet mostly young women, that they have mental illness and that its not their fault and they have the answer.bla bla bla.
Such liars.
It has become a fad.
I agree with the op.
I hope others will find more healthy ways to deal with being human and not fall prey to big pharmas propaganda.
I have more respect for the corner crack dealer than I have for big pharma

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When you think of all the chemtrails or contrails as some call them, its no wonder that people's health is affected.

Think about it. We had so much disease years ago. Now we have so many meds and yet there are still so many people dying. We didnt really fix much.

If you consider that chemcials in the sky are blocking some of the light from the sun then its no wonder that peoples would have less vitamin D and less serotonin.

And when those chemials come down to earth in our waters we drink from, and crops we eat from and in our air we breath. It is no surprise that there are so many fires on the planet right now whilst flammable substances released across the skies fall.

And no wonder we sometimes we abnormal sized and shapes hailstones. Because those hailstones are the chemicals from the sky.

When you consider the tiny plastic and metal particals being realised and that we incorporate them into our bodies, its no wonder that cancer, alzheimers ect are so common.

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Anonymous wrote:
Its very important to talk about mental health issues. As-long as its real and not made up. Big difference

I think there are far more people out there who have undiagnosed or untreated mental health issues than there are “attention seekers” and 1. I’m not a doctor and 2. I would rather take a cry for help at face value than assume it’s a lie.

I knew this one girl who was EXACTLY the kind of person you’re talking about. She was... exasperating. And she threatened to kill herself all of the time - if her bf broke up with her, or if my (then bf) didn’t stop her bf from leaving her, etc. She had self diagnosed mental illnesses aplenty and she constantly lied.

I didn’t believe her and then one day she did kill herself.

So I take that ****shit pretty seriously now.

My sister used to think i was being manipulative with my emotions. But now she's seen them, i think she believes them better. But she thinks i may have aspergers and been misunderstood.

Im sorry that happened with you. Its not easy from either side

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I don't put up with bullshit in life much less death. This girls death in on her and not you. I've known plenty of types like this - proud, bold, attention seekers always right, never wrong and always a victim and continually hysterical of minor issues.

Let yourself off the hook.

Easier said than done! 😔

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My sister used to think i was being manipulative with my emotions. But now she's seen them, i think she believes them better. But she thinks i may have aspergers and been misunderstood.

Im sorry that happened with you. Its not easy from either side

I’m glad that your sister believes you now. Having emotional support is so important!

Thank you.

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Thank u. It really is.
I know what happened must be hard for u but try not to dwell. U cant change the past but u can take the lessons with u into the future.

Years ago i wanted to commit suicide or hurt myself. Just cos i wanted my mam to see how mucb she was hurting me. I wanted her to love me n treat me better. N stop hurting me.

But in reality when ppl realise what they were doing was hurting u, it doesnt make the person feel any better. Has made me feel guilty for making others feel so bad.

I think if that person waa looking down on u they would not want u to feel bad.

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@Jetmoo - thank you, love. You are an absolute treasure.

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The other thing... when i was having heart failure symptoms and on verge of life and death. I felt like it was time to say good bye and it was my time to go.

I stopped feeling so upset and angry at others and felt a sense of forgiveness like none of it mattered anymore. None of the hurt mattered and that those ppl who hurt me just didnt understand. They were like children who didnt understand. I could forgive them. It wasnt their fault they didnt understand.

That sense of peace.. forgiveness.. probably came to that person too.

Im not saying that u were to blame at all. Sometimes things just happen. We dont know whats really going on in others heads. All we can do is our best. And its a hard world cos we always have to take care of ourselves too and u were probably trying to take care of yourself too. U probs found it hard to deal with and maybe didnt know how best to deal with it.

You and me and all of us, we are all like children who dont have all the answers. We r all still learning. We all make mistakes or lessons rather.

If u look into a rear view mirrow for too long in a car u will crash. Same with life. Look back for a small amount of time just to recall the lessons to take them and apply them to ur future as u drive forward in life

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@Jetmoo - thank you, love. You are an absolute treasure.

Youre welcome. And thank u. I hope the comment after helps too. Sometimes i get scared incase i aay the wrong thing by accident

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@Araz. Speaking as a person with mental illness, who has lost far too many close friends to suicide, please please, do not think that you are any way implicated.

Lots of us with mental health issues don't even seek help from those who support us when we are in that dark place. I lost a dear childhood and teenage friend of mine a few years back, she had been clean from addiction for several years. Her brother, was my first love so we were close friends through him (her brother and I are still friends, but we didn't work as a couple; he's gay). I knew her troubles with mental illness, and she knew of mine since we were in high school together.

I asked myself constantly, even knowing what I know, why didn't she come to me? Why didn't she reach out for help? Should I have kept a constant check on her to make sure she was okay? She moved to another state a few years before (where he addiction started), we hadn't seen each other in person for those years, and lost touch for about 4 years after. It was only after she was clean that I found out of her addiction.

But it didn't matter if we would have spoken, or whether I would have kept checking on her just "in case" she might have hit another depression cycle, or if your friend felt "believed". Even those who support, love and treat us well, can still sometimes not be enough.

Her illness was the cause of her feeling desperate enough to the point of her death. She was not in her right mind, and that isn't your fault, nor could you have done anything. She might have needed hospitalization and being detained and put on watch by medical teams - that wouldn't have been something you could have provided.

It's good that mental illness is becoming more of a talking point in society. It may have actually saved many lives. I know it has for me, and some of my closest friends. We "crazies" tend to stick together and help each other though. I probably have maybe one friend that doesn't have a mental illness, and that's just because we've known each other from high school classes. But my family, friends and family friend's have all got some form of diagnosis. Most of them are being managed, thankfully.

I spent years finding the thing that works for me. Even just 6 years ago, I was a totally different person who didn't have an ounce of self-esteem or awareness of any self-worth; I had been convinced since I was a child that I had no value at all, and anything I touched or was even at all near emotionally or physically, was poisoned by me. But I'm slowly learning the lies. Even friends who have known me long enough, still cannot believe how better "balanced" I've become. Though, I still have a lot of work to do yet, I'm better than I have ever been.

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What bothers me is that mental illness isnt treated properly to make it go away. People are only put in drugs to hide the symptoms.

Brain scans show that the physiology in the brains are different to the average brain. So with knowing this why are they not finding the cause of this change?

I dont like how they get people dependent on drugs for life. I totally believe that people with mental illness struggle and id never undermine it or invalidate what they go through. But it upsets and even angers me that there are ways of dealing with mental illness which are not made well known to the public and brilliant drs get "gagged" and muted from talking and discredited.

Professionals either are not aware or they largerly ignore research that is out there. In favour of what makes money. Its sickening to me to make money by keeping people unwell when it can be helped, cured or eased without ill effects and without dependency

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What gets me, is why do we even call mental illness a mental illness and not physiological illness when you can see the physiological differences? Is there really any need to call it a mental illness? Why not just call it being ill and physiological illness to be called being ill.

People at times discredit what someone is going through claiming it is a mental illness and it angers me. I personally have been denied tests on grounds that they believe my illness is mental. So that ive had to pay for my own tests and treatment privately.

And when people focus so much on mental health it prevents people from having tests they need. Its all about saving money. My carer has symptoms of her thyroid not working properly and asked to be tested. He said she might have imagined it and be mental health caused. She had actually woke up becauss the pain at her throat was so bad. She said she wont go back again.

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I agree jetmoo

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Thank you @Aria - your response really helped me. I even saved it to my notes so I can come back to it from time to time.

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Araz wrote:
Thank you @Aria - your response really helped me. I even saved it to my notes so I can come back to it from time to time.

You are most welcome! I've certainly been down that road. Sadly, I've lost far too many close loved ones to suicide. Some of them, I have found myself going down that train of thought...and it's a nasty spiral to go down and pull myself out of it.

When I was 6, a friend of my mother, her husband sexually molested me - when I reported it, I was told afterward that she killed herself. I carried that blame ever since until just recently. Her daughter and I were best friends at the time, but we lost touch through the drama of it all, and I had to move to a different state. We recently got back in touch just over a year ago, and found out that it wasn't a simple suicide, and even if so, she never would have put that on me. Still though, I find myself putting it on myself still, and still feel that her death, in whichever way it happened, was somewhat on me for saying something in the first place.

There is still quite a lot about mental health that is still being done, and new understanding comes along with it all the time. Such as different ways of managing a personality disorder, behavioral therapies and trauma treatments. For some people, medication and therapy need to go hand-in-hand. Some people just might need therapy. But there is still a lot about mental health that is unknown, and it's not just simply a case hiding it with medication, or not wanting to lose profits.

For me, I need my medication. I'm someone who cannot function without it, but I also needed non-medication treatment such cognitive behavioral therapy. I was actually housebound... getting into a car would have me going hysterical and slamming windows. I was in a self-made prison for almost a decade before I got the help I needed. To the point, that last month, I shared a freakin' drink with Billy Zane in a crowded pub.

8 years ago, I would NOT have done that. I wouldn't have even been able to go to my local store for a carton of milk.

It's about finding the diagnosis, and what works to manage it, and also how to treat the individual. My serotonin levels are low, which causes my depression, my C-PTSD is well....from past trauma (of course...it's in the name. Lol) Both issues can be managed with my paroxetine, but, I also needed several types of therapy.

No, just throwing medication at someone with a diagnosis is not at all useful. Especially since each medication needs to be "right" for each person, and that can take dozens of tries with different combinations.

My cousin is having a hell of a time with her Bi-Polar and finding something to work. My mom has schizo-effective disorder (which is essentially Bi-Polar with Schizophrenic traits) , she was diagnosed at 19, and wasn't out of hospital for more than 3 months until 2003, when I was 17 and was aging out of my foster care guardianship. But the medication that finally got her well, and the therapy combined, isn't working for my cousin. And on top of that, my cousin is also battling with anorexia.

Also, a final note. It is called mental illness, because that is exactly what it is. It's a variation of illnesses that affect the brain and cognitive thinking. In the same way that you would call someone physically ill when it's not an issue with the brain. Then you have your neurotypical/atypical brain functions too, but that is a different area then mental as well. Though, I'm not too well versed in that kind, personally. Despite me currently waiting for an evaluation to see if I may be on the autism spectrum.

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