Oh yeah, there is such resistance among the average population to 5G. Me and my broey bros talk about it everyday.

Wait until all the alt-right conspiracy theorists start talking about 6G. OP's head just might explode! LOL

5G towers you mean? They were well planned years earlier. They just don't build themselves because we are in quarantine. Just ask anybody involved from Ericsson, Qualcomm, or Nokia.

its satan busy at work

I saw an article saying they put them up on mount everest using some sort of cattle. Forgotwhar the animal is called.

I havr a link if u want it.

I believe they're going up

They are burning down the towers in the U.K.
Hopefully we will follow your lead in america.
Dont they understand we dont want or need 5 G.
Its going to start by killing 1000s of birds. Sic

Wake up to facts. 5G does not kill wildlife. Put down the conspiracy theory magazines and walk away.

Report of Final Results Regarding Brain and Heart Tumors in Sprague-Dawley Rats Exposed From Prenatal Life Unitl Natural Death to Mobile Phone Radiofrequency Field Representative of a 1.8 GHz GSM Base Station Environmental Emission.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29530389

Brain Tumours: Rise in Glioblastoma Multiforme Incidence in England 1995-2015 Suggests an Adverse Environmental or Lifestyle Factor.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2018/7910...

The 2100 MHz Radiofrequency Radiation of a 3G-Mobile Phone and the DNA Oxidative Damage in Brain.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/p...

Prenatal Exposure to Extremely Low Frequency Magnetic Field and Its Impact on Fetal Growth.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30635061

The Effects of Radio Frequency Radiation on Mice Fetus Weight, Length and Tissues.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61...

Exposure to Magnetic Field Non-Ionizing Radiation and the Risk of Miscarriage: A prospective Cohort Study.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-16623-8

Multiple Assessment Methods of Prenatal Exposure to Radio Frequency Radiation from Telecommunication in the Mothers and Children’s Environmental Health (MOCEH) Study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27869246

The Use of Signal-Transduction and Metabolic Pathways to Predict Human Disease Targets from Electric and Magnetic Fields Using in vitro Data in Human Cell Lines.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC50...

A Review on Electromagnetic Fields (EMFs) and the Reproductive System.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC50...

Genotoxicity Induced by Foetal and Infant Exposure to Magnetic Fields and Modulation of Ionising Radiation Effects.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.../journal.pone.0142259

Oxidative Stress of Brain and Liver is Increased by Wi-Fi (2.45 GHz) Exposure of Rats During Pregnancy and the Development of Newborns.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26520617

Neurodegenerative Changes and Apoptosis Induced by Intrauterine and Extrauterine Exposure of Radiofrequency Radiation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26520616

Maternal Exposure to a Continuous 900-MHz Electromagnetic Field Provokes Neuronal Loss and Pathological Changes in Cerebellum of 32-Day-Old Female Rat Offspring.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26391347

Different Periods of Intrauterine Exposure to Electromagnetic Field: Influence on Female Rats' Fertility, Prenatal and Postnatal Development.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/p...

Use of Mobile Phone During Pregnancy and the Risk of Spontaneous Abortion.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC44...

Oxidative Mechanisms of Biological Activity of Low-Intensity Radiofrequency Radiation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26151230

Effects of Prenatal 900 MHz Electromagnetic Field Exposures on the Histology of Rat Kidney.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25084839

The Effect of Exposure of Rats During Prenatal Period to Radiation Spreading from Mobile Phones on Renal Development.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25691088

Dosimetric Study of Fetal Exposure to Uniform Magnetic Fields at 50 Hz.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25266786

Influence of Pregnancy Stage and Fetus Position on the Whole-Body and Local Exposure of the Fetus to RF-EMF.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25098501

Autism-Relevant Social Abnormalities in Mice Exposed Perinatally to Extremely Low Frequency Electromagnetic Fields.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24970316

Pyramidal Cell Loss in the Cornu Ammonis of 32-day-old Female Rats Following Exposure to a 900 Megahertz Electromagnetic Field During Prenatal Days 13–21.
http://neuroquantology.com/index.php/journal/ar...

The Effects of 900 Megahertz Electromagnetic Field Applied in the Prenatal Period on Spinal Cord Morphology and Motor Behavior in Female Rat Pups.
http://www.neuroquantology.com/index.php/journa...

Fetal Radiofrequency Radiation Exposure From 800-1900 MHz-Rated Cellular Telephones Affects Neurodevelopment and Behavior in Mice.
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep00312

Cranial and Postcranial Skeletal Variations Induced in Mouse Embryos by Mobile Phone Radiation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19854628

Dysbindin Modulates Prefrontal Cortical Glutamatergic Circuits and Working Memory Function in Mice.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19641486

Stress Signalling Pathways that Impair Prefrontal Cortex Structure and Function.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC29...

Maternal Occupational Exposure to Extremely Low Frequency Magnetic Fields and the Risk of Brain Cancer in the Offspring.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19224378

Reproductive and Developmental Effects of EMF in Vertebrate Animal Models.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19272761

Prenatal and Postnatal Exposure to Cell Phone Use and Behavioral Problems in Child

https://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Electrical_sensitivity

https://www.smart-technologies.co.nz/articles/C...

Thx jetmoo for setting the record straight.
Where is Al??
Hugs.hugs.

[‌quote soco]Wake up to facts. 5G does not kill wildlife. Put down the conspiracy theory magazines and walk away. [
/quote]

Im sorry but you are mistaken. Someone even won a courtcase in France regarding EMF harming her.

There is no logical reason why it would not harm wildlife.

Do you have knowledge fof biology?

Our nervous system uses electro chemical gradients in order to send nervous impulses.

It causes depolarization, repolarization, hyperpolarisation and then back to polarisation. Depolarisation itself triggers an action potential which initiates sending the message.

The membranes of nerve cells have voltage gated channels for both potassium and sodium. Additional voltage would alter the way the nervous system works. This is why children hae complained of heart pains when they have been at school buut the pain stops when they have left because of the 5G n schools.

Wildlife like birds have a bigger surface area because theyre are smaller than humans. This means they would be affected more by it than ourselves.

I am not sure how plants could be affected but humans do not know everything

Hugs :) its so important that people know what is going on in the world. It is a crazy place to be

Its very crazy. Its become a place where the evil luciferions have taken a stronghold on us innocent folk.

Yep. Strangely enough though it has strengthen my faith. Where there is a satan there is definately a god. I always believed in god but this has made my faith even stronger

Ditto..
God is our only hope now.
Without God, and our savor Jesus Christ our Lord, we will give up everything to evil.

Honestly i have given up things i didnt think i woud. I have more things to throw out. All the halloween stuff gone, sexy outfits? Gone. Im on a mission. And i dont share for any praise cos its jehovah who need aim to please,, not each other.

??? Like.. wot i mean is im not trying to impress people to think highly of me. I got so much work to do . I cant believe some of the things i ave done.

And it ihard work to not feel annoyed at people sometimes but we have to love our neighbour lie we love ourseves.

And when i think of people doing terrible things and feel angry i remember some of my bad things and i dont feel so proud.

Like with this post i could have ended up getin g frustrated but i know i have to do better than that because we have to ove one another.so i have to think about how i do things. Its strange changing old habits but seek jehovah and ask hm for guidence and he will ehlp you. As he has helped me.

Me you and Soco all believe in God. So it is something we can all agree on.

I that a good thing to say?

And AI too

Yep

Sources are good but they are much better when you actually read them to determine if they are relevant. It's good to question, but when you actually want to say that you know the truth about something, you have to do the work and the research and examine the issue, and not just take a headline and assume you know what something is about.

There are A LOT of links there and I'm definitely not going to look into every single one, but I checked out the first three. It's worth noting, though, that, looking through the titles, none of them specifically mention 5G networks, it looks like they are mostly about cell phone radiation in general.

First link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29530389

The abstract says that, for the highest amount of radiaton they used during the study, exposing the rats to the radiation for 19 hours a day from utero until they died that rats had a statistically significant increase in tumors. Meaning maybe the increase in incidence was due to the radiaton.

So, it seems to me the study is saying this: If you sat next to a cellphone tower for 19 hours a day from when you were conceived until you died, you might be more likely to develop a tumor.

Second link: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2018/7910...

"We aimed to evaluate the effect of 2100MHz radiofrequency radiation emitted by a generator, simulating a 3G-mobile phone on the brain of rats during 10 and 40 days of exposure."

"Our main finding was the increased oxidative DNA damage to brain after 10 days of exposure with the decreased oxidative DNA damage following 40 days of exposure compared to their control groups."

So my question is, what is this study really saying? Is it saying that you get acclimated to radiation after a month and it doesn't harm you as much? It doesn't say to what degree whatever damage it is doing is harmful. So it's definitely not conclusive evidence that the radiation used in the study is dangerous.

Third link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30635061

"RESULTS: Compared with girls with lower prenatal ELF-MF exposure, girls with higher exposure had a lower birth weight, thinner skinfold of triceps, abdomen and back, and smaller circumference of head, upper arm and abdomen in all three ELF-MF matrices. The differences were statistically significant for birth weight and most other growth measurements (P < 0.05). These measures had no significant difference between higher and lower prenatal ELF-MF exposure in boys except back skinfold thickness."

Again, the results of the study are clearly not conclusive. And there is a contradictory result in that it seemed to effect girls and not boys.

I definitely have an open mind on this stuff. I'm not here trying to say that cell phones are perfectly safe. I think the issue should be studied further, and if, after towers go up, adverse health affects are observed, we should take them down.

Being that the consensus among people who actually study this stuff for a living is that it's safe, I'm not opposed to them going up.

And like soco said earlier, they would be putting the towers up regardless of whether or not there was a coronovirus outbreak, if anything I bet the outbreak would slow things down, but I'm obviously not following the situation closely. Like most people, contrary to the OP's claim, I'm really not that concerned about it.

It good to hear your response. Please see my response to the previous pst i commented on. Its relevant to this.

Using a moile to my head has mae me brain burn and worsened my cogniton. I know that these links are mostly to do with cell phones but if cell phones can cause harm then 5 G definately would. But wht ayou say about them being inconclusive, i think i need to think more about tht before commenting.

What i do know though is that there have been children complaining of being very unwell when in chool in USA and feel much better when outside of school one in particular was complaining of severre heart pains like his heart was being queezed and it would sto pwhen he went home. And they think it is to do with 5G because it only started after the 5G was installed and the 5G is right next to the shcool.

They have not tested for 5G safety so they would not tell you of their unsafety.

I lso know that some drs are not corrupt but are then casd ed to llose their lisence because they are doing wat is right for the patient. And you probably wont belive it but it has been done before with drs dealing with my illness.

Dr Nigel Speight was a Dr who helped children with ME when familys were hving problems with their children having ME. Beuacse ME has been protrayed as a mental illness for so long people have eeb nforcibly removed fro mtheir homes and put into psych wards and forced to have harmful treatment. Which the houses of commones have discussed as being unsafe. NICE are now updating the guideslines on reatment of those with M>E but Drs who treated ME as if it was a physiological illness rather than psycholgical have bn penalised for doing so. Dr Nigel speight can no longer work with people with ME. Unless things have changed since the last time i looked.

But if good drs can be sileced then there is no reason why good drs in other areas can not also be silenced.

PACEtrial was fradulent and had relationships with insurance company Unum and DWP about money. The study was used to penalise people with ME so we ould not get thesupport we needed becauuse unu said we would cost too much. So many people have ded at the hands of the authorities. And my private dr has challenged the GMC as to why they have not done anything regarding the PACE trial authors.

When you see this happen first hand yourself it does make you wonder who you can trust. I had medics abuse me and shout at me for stugling t breath and shouted at me for being unable to ove and i was crying and even being sick but they had no compassion and thouht i was attentin seeking. I said to them, what good ould i gain from pretending and woman said she didnt know. But they still thought i ws pretending. Hospital staff abused me and id rather die at home than take the risk of seeing them again. People with ME ften are abused by these pople who have ben misinformated. If people can misinform people world wide abot my illness and cause millions world wide to suffer and be babused and left without social security and social services and benefits to kep them alive i see that it is is ipossible that tey may do this with others.

There are definately corrupt people out there. Ven my GP allowed my social worker to have my doorcde without my cnsent retherth tan tell us he had concerns with my health. People think they can do what they want with you. You are treated less than human and i have had to change my doorcode and will not give it out again. It is scarry to know that people can abuse powers of protection just walk into your home like that. if you cant feel safe in your own home then where ca you feel safe? Especially when you consider the history of people with ME being forcibly remoeed for their homes. I needed my diazapam after that. And thats where my faith cae in because it was the only thing to get me through what i have been through with all of this.

Sorry for so much waffle 😅

You do not have to be rigt next to a cell tower to be exposed to the radiation. Mobiles receieve messages from cell towers from miles away from them so if he phone can receieve signal then so can the body.

Did you read the link from Dr Myhill?

There was also a woman in france who won a court case regarding EMF harming her.

It is not possible to share research regarding harms of 5G with you because none have been done but harms have been seen from lower levels so it seems likely that 5G would be more harmful.

When you consider that our bodies contain mostly water and water conducts elecricity and when you consider that we contain metals, some we should have in our body for our bodies to work right but some should not be there and can cause dysfunction in the body.

For example if one is deficient in zinc,then the body may subtitute nickle in its place because nickle looks very similar in composition to zinc. So those with deficiencies are more likley to incorprotate metals into their mitochondrial DNA and thus the mitochodria would not work correctly or optimally. Stainless steel is 14% nickle. Most people use stainless steel. Nickle leaches from pans when the pans are heated during cooking and it leeches into our food that we then eat. But the public are not informed about these toxins.

Big pharama promotes people to be unhealthy with havng medication like omeprazole which then neutralises the acidity in the stomach. This then weakens the bodies immune system. So when we eat food that our bodies have a bad reaction to we then have medication to tell our bodies to be quiet and stop complaining. Rather than listening to our bodies and stop eating the foods which cause this. It tends to be foods like flour, atleast with my dad it has been with pastry.

My comprehensive stool analysis said that some specific aerobic microbes thrive on carbs like from starch from potatoe, pasta, bread, products containing flour but we are told in the eat well plate in the NHS that we should be consuming lots of carbs.

the NHS also disourage eating animal fats and lard. However these fats are actually good for us. And it amazed me to find out that after i studied biology at A level but when you look into it it makes alot of sense. And a molecule of fat produces more molecules of ATP for energy and using fat for energy also produces less oxidative stress during respiration.

We are encouraged by those we trust to make ourselves more sick.

So water and metals both conduct electicity and both are in our bodies. And the more vaccines we have the more metals bioaccumulates in our bodies which then would increase the amount of EMF receieved by the body.

The body uses electrochemical gradients to initiate nerve impulses. Thy create action potentials and an imbalence of volatge in the body can disrupt the eletro chemical gradients and disrumpt the singals without the body. And cau lead to illnesses affecting the nervous system. And it is probably why many ado not seem to be affected by EMF but i am affected by mobiles. Beause i have an illness of the nervous system and an illness with my mitochodira so it is likely i have more metals in my body so then i absorb more electic than hose with lss metals. So i am affected more than others.

But metals bioaccumulate in the body and illnss creeps p over time so it then becomes harder to pin point what exactly caused the illness. For me personally my illness was gradual onset.

Many dismiss the bioaccumulation of metals from vaccines as a big deal.

Many people are misinformed with many things. Eve nmercury fillings have been banned in some countries butmay people believe that they are not a risk.

And it is the same with many things. In our food, drinks, the air we breath. We are swimming in toxins and thats why so many people are sick but rather than removing toxins from what we consumed and products we put on our skin, people rather use the money for reasearch so we can be greedy and have everything we desire and then fix the consequenes and keep on going with harmful desire and ignoring our own health.

Many take their health for granted until it is too late to turn back. And many are simply unaware so they cant make informed decisions and since theey do not have the knowledge to understand, they trust those with the knowledge to do what is in the publics best interest.

But that didnt happen wth people with ME.

You make very long comments Jetmoo, which is fine, but also makes it impossible for me to respond to everything.

Responding to because I actually have a fatty liver so I've been prescribed a low fat diet. So something I think about a lot.

Animal fat specifically, or all fat?

The problem with animal fat is it's often "bad fat" that your body is inefficient at breaking down and tends to get stuck in your system, and collect in places...like my liver. Most plant fat isn't great for you either. Animal fats are worse because they also have a high cholesterol content and that gets stuck in your arteries, gums them up, and makes it more likely for you to have a heart attack or stroke.

Omega 3s are good fats that are easier for your body to break down and studies suggest hey can actually help clear out the bad fat and cholesterol in your system. They can be found in both animal and plant fat forms, but the animal fat version is actually better for you because it is easier for your body to break it down into a usable form. However, it turns out plant algae also has that kind of fat...maybe it's something about the sea, who knows. In any case I have a plant algae version since I am a vegetarian.

I was already a vegetarian when I found out about my fatty liver so I wasn't getting animal fat from meat...but I love cheese and I was eating cheese daily and often more than once a day. So I high on animal fat and cholesterol.

So, on my dr's advice I cut out the cheese (I still eating a couple of times a week, but a lot less) and I lost 15 lbs in a couple of month and felt physically much better too.

To respond the stuff that's actually about 5G: My understanding, based on my professional google research (I'm being facetious) is that the type of radiation emitted by cell phone towers is non-ionizing and does not directly damage cells or mutate DNA. And studies that have shown there to be an increase in tumors in rats exposed to EMF, the different between control groups and experimental groups is so small that the difference could just as well be chance...also from the three studies I looked at that you studied...I mean, they were really trying to fry those poor rats, weren't they? I feel bad for the poor guys.

On the other stuff...a lot of what you are saying is really anecdotal and hasn't been seriously studied and could just as easily be coincidence. Why is one kid suffering but not the others? And other questions I could ask but I would be here all day.

The other stuff about ME I REALLY know nothing about and won't waste your time by trying to speak to it. And besides, it's not what the topic is about. I understand you are trying to say that some dr's are corrupt or perhaps just bad drs, but that's something I already know, believe me. And I believe you when you say you have been treated badly, and I am sorry to hear.

I have no idea, there are a lot of links there.

some fats are not so good. Can i recommend a link to Dr Myhills website regarding it as she explains it all much better than i can?

This was exactly what i thought too and i thought for a short while that Dy Myhill had perhaps lost the plot. But in futher investigation the science behind it seems legit.

Re cheese: i dont eat cheese. Dr myhill does not think it is good for us at all. Also isnt it basically made of mould? I wouldnt eat it. Also it tends to be made from cow milk and cows are usually fed growth hormones which is a good promoter of cancer. Near where i live there is Beamish Museum and when i have gone before i havr noticed how the houses and ceilings are much lower than ours now. I think its likely because of all the growth hormones in dairy products.

I cut out dairy, gluten and yeast and i feel better for it. No more itchiness in a night keeping me awake

the first part i think is incorrect. The second part is possibly because some peope have higher metals content in their bodies than others so they would then receieve more EMFs than others.

If you touch an aerial antenna the signal improves so its easy to see that we can receive EMFs signal

I have no idea, there are a lot of links there. [/quote]

It was a link on its own in a comment of its own.

The article doesn't mention scientific studies. The author says "I've met a lot of people with EHS, so it must be real." Ok, fair enough, but that is only anecdotal evidence. "EMR is known to cause cancer." Not all EMR, only ionizing EMR, which are not the kind emitted by electrical devices.

That fallacy, coupled with the fact that there is a link to a supplement store on the site, makes me narrow my eyes and not want to trust that site.

https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/...

That is a link for the who, I have a feeling you won't trust them, fair enough.

Edit: I read too fast sometimes, there is a study mention in the myhill page, but it's doesn't seem to be directly about EHS, more about biological effects of EMF exposure, and even seems to talk about therapeutic uses of EMFs.

I think you are being very judgemental. That lady risks her whole career to advocate for those with ME. She has put so much free information in her website and made youtube videos which are free to look at and podcasys to try and help people. They have a free facebook group to try and help people. Everything she has done to help us is alot more than the majority of drs who have left us to die with no hope at all. She has an award for ine of her books. Reviews on amazon all amazing. Ive read some of her stuff.

Are you aware that she has tried to hold the PACE trail authors to account with the general medical coucil for all the abuse and deaths caused by them? If the GMC do not hold the authors to account she is taking them to court. How many other dtd have done that? None that i know of

Are you aware of the MAIMES campaign she is doing to help us with ME get MPs to notice us and help us? MAIMES stands for medical abused in ME sufferers.

Or about the complaint she made to GMC and trying to assist those without a voice to be able to whistle blow their abuse?

Just because she has a shop doesnt mean people have to buy things from her.

She even put together a website where u can choose from a choice of drs. Not just her. She makes it very clear she is not taking on more people because she is full up and has been for a very long time.

She left the NHS which has the security of money and holidays and a pension and more money when u push certain treatments. She went private because NHS was restrictive so she was very limited in how she could help people.

She genuinely wants to help people. Even thougj she has written multiple books alot of their content is in her website.

I copied a bunch of quotes from her book and shes happy for me to share it with the dr surgery who have no clue of ME.

She has done research to try and help us. She has dedicated her life to helping us.

If 5G is not harmful then why do people have to wear special protective suits to put them up?

I am glad she has helped you and others with your condition. I will take your word that she is a very good person and has done a lot of public good.

Either way, the stuff she said about EHS seems fishy to me for the reasons I said.

I don't know. I do not have proof the 5G is definitely not harmful at all and said as much. But I doubt it is because there isn't evidence to support that idea.

Maybe we should ask someone who works on putting up the towers and see what they say.

Though, another question you could ask if the workers know it's harmful why are they doing it.

My guess is because it provides a roof over their heads and their families. Its a job that brings money in