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This may offend one person here but if it helps another person it is well worth it.

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I actually need help

Hi anonymous I'm dad.

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Religion is sick.

I agree we shouldn't base government policies around religion.

I think though in Western countries that never really happens...it's more of a way to manipulate people to vote for policies that are often not very religious at all. Like tax cuts for the rich.

The solution isn't really to get rid of religion in that case, but to have better education and critical thinking education specifically.

Though I've heard the opinion that saying "people who vote conservative aren't educated enough" is an elitist way of looking at things. I am still grappling with this idea.

Elitist or not, it's hard for me to understand people voting and doing things against their own interests any other way.

Many people donated to Trump's stop the steal fund, raising millions of dollars, most of which has gone to pay back campaign debts or fund unrelated Republican party projects. I wonder how many of them read the fine print that said that their donations didn't have to be used for legal fees unless it was over 8,000 dollars or whatever it was. Probably few. I'm sure the problem isn't a case of too much education, eh.

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Religion is sick.

I want to try acid one day but it is illegal in the usa.

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Religion is sick.

Anonymous wrote:

Drugs don't count. I thought I met god sometimes on the right stuff too but...No.

Lol. I meant more something, perhaps, along the lines of what happens to Jules in the movie Pulp Fiction. Or something like that.

I've felt like a god or nature spirit has spoken to me at some points in my life, without the benefit of drugs. But you're right it's not something I would demand other people accept as real and base their life on.

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Religion is sick.

Anonymous wrote:

Just one question to this. And then I'll get on to the rest of your response:

How?

I would argue I can't possibly be doing the same thing at all!
They're not the same thing.

To say there should be proof of the argument is in no way making a point of some kind without proof. I honestly don't understand the logic of your analysis of my logic LOL

I was kinda half-joking with that part. Taking this sentence:

"If you believe in something you can't see or prove exists you are insane"

completely at face value without adding anything to it and assuming that you did not have evidence for that claim that believing in something without evidence makes you insane by some legal definition.

Though now that I think about it maybe that doesn't really make as much sense as I thought it did. Idk I 've had about 6 hours of sleep the past two nights total.

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im thankful for

Im thankful for big *****boobs and butts.

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Name three things you'd like the new US government to do.

Anonymous wrote:

NacthoMan wrote:
commies banned religion.. guess it worked for them for a while - till it didint.

Sadly, banning religion is unrealistic. But it's my #1 wish all the same. Nothing says an un-healthy democracy like voting your values based on BULLSH*T.

Lano wrote:

I can't agree with banning religion but i am guessing you've made a topic just about that so i will see you there when i get a chance.

Btw, Lano, I'm sure I've created posts like that before but it's been a while. I'm starting to think it's time to debate it again though. Keep an eye out!

Oh there is a recent post marked nsfw up about religion being bad by someone anonymous i assumed it was you because of the timing lol.

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Spending time trying to ignore feelings of worthlessness...

I get overwhelmed with those feelings sometimes, usually when something is happening in my life where I feel I am being judged (like up for a promotion or job interview or whatever) and I get neck deep in feelings of "I don't deserve anything I'm garbage I'm lazy I'm worthless etc".

And it's annoying but the only thing to really do is to push through because the alternative is not pushing through, and that doesn't sound very nice either?

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Religion is sick.

A lot of argument in internet forums is identity-assertion triggering so to avoid any assumptions about what I am arguing I would just say before anything else: I'm epistemologically agnostic about the existence of God (an overly fancy way of saying I don't think it is possible to prove either way, in terms of the christian gods, or norse gods for that matter, etc.)

To what you said:

If taken literally, by your own logic, you, without prove or evidence, believe that:

"If you believe in something you can't see or prove exists YOU'RE FUC*ING INSANE."

And are therefore guilty of the exact thing you are accusing others of doing.

But to not take it so literally, and to your general point:

People generally believe a lot of crazy nonsensical things without evidence. For example many people believe vaccines cause autism or that this past Presidential election was rigged. Why pick on religion specifically if we're going to pick on people believing things that have no evidence? So many people believe so many things without evidence. Be honest: You have probably done so yourself at different points in your life, as have I, and all of us. It may very well be human nature to believe things without evidence, either for biological, evolutionary, or whatever reasons. That doesn't make people mentally ill or "insane" if so. It just means we have predisposition towards believe...It could be a trust instinct gone haywire, or that we just prefer to believe things that make us feel better...or whatever.

And if it's true that people have a predisposition to believe things without evidence and that is a handicap we are all born with, then really we shouldn't be angry with such people but empathetic. It can be frustrating sure, but I wouldn't really say it's their fault. Patronizing to them as that sounds, but it's a step up from calling them all insane.

I think most people who are religious are probably only so because their parents were and they inherited the belief and are disposed, personality-wise, to not question it. Indeed, in my own experience with some religious types is they take great offense to people trying to talk to them about their religion from any sort of point of view other than of a person who already believes. Discussing religion with people "outside" of their religion is uncomfortable, especially if it's a philosophical discussion about the existence or nonexistence of God or something like that. And I can't say I blame them, being religious doesn't automatically make you a theologian capable of disputing or arguing every part of a belief system that has existed for 100 of years before you were born and that will continue to exist long after, and that's often what they feel like they're put in a position to do.

On the other hand I think many other religious people are so because they have had personal experiences that either brought them to whatever (established or unestablished) religious belief that they have or that have reaffirmed their already "loosely" held religious belief. These people wouldn't have physical evidence for their belief but have had expereinces that they feel they can only explain as an experience with the spiritual/divine/God. I don't think those people are insane either. there are a lot of different, crazy experiences out there and it's not always easy to make sense of them.

On a final note: It's not easy to accept (if true) that we're thrown into the universe, against our will, to live for a short, meaningless time, trapped in often very weak, unideal bodies, to die with a brain that is instinctually terrified of death. That is such a disappointment on a profound level that I can't blame people for wanting to think that death isn't the end.

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