I think the opposite is true for the time we live in - it's not a question if a man is threatened by a woman more than hysterically driven women are threatened by men.
It seems if the "Dude" is in anyway less of a dude, then he isn't such a threat.
For example, I'm a "Dude." I've got certain equipment that likes entertainment and I say it like it is. Smoke? Look, if we're gonna talk about anything, it should be about what you're making for breakfast in the morning...otherwise, I'll bring you back a burger when I get in.
What? Pillow talk? Isn't that why you're friends with that slack-jawed #agg0t (oh, what's it's face - yeah, him) - No...it's time to count sheep. Goodnight.

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Maybe not to that extreme but liberal western women have destroyed more men than all combined wars of the 20th century. And y'all keep wondering why your lives are so g0#Amm boring and lifeless

It took me almost half the flick to realize that is a ring in your nose instead of a loose blob of snot.

Funny that it isn't difficult to figure out who replies anonymously by just looking to see who was logged on when the reply was made. It's only going to be 1 of 2-3 people, so you can know who to avoid in the future (and/or who the incels are). ...lol

There is an issue going on regarding sexuality and the rights attached to this however.

As a man you are guilty of whatever people blame you for till you're proven innocent. And even then it'll still cost you your job, reputation and possibly friends and family. This makes dating akin to "kicking a hornets nest and praying no ones home".

Which is more stressful than it is rewarding (And by reward I mean the pleasant night out / the dopamine rush from the excitement of meeting new people.) This currently is gone.

Furthermore. I believe if one is afraid to stand behind their words then one shouldn't share them to begin with. (In regards to anonymity)

People, especially men, have forgotten social skills, like dignity and respect.

Two issues, first of: power balance, in office we have to make certain every interaction is recorded on video now. For the simple reason that false accusing a colleague of intimidation with the motive to get this colleague fired and/or take his job is a real thing that more than a few women are guilty of. As a rule we see many companies either hiring less women or no women at all. (Risks/costs is something you try to avoid and #metoo is both.)

Secondly: A yes might turn into a no 2/3/4 weeks down the road. We've all had sexual encounters we weren't satisfied with. As a man you call this a mistake, as a woman this gives you a chance to ruin a life as evidence has become optional. Even if there is no conviction, cases can drag on for months and all the costs will be enough to bankrupt "your victim of choice". (And added, my country is working on a law where you can state you revert your consent: turning any sexual encounter you ever had into a ****rape case at will.)

As a result, I come back to my hornets nest reference. Why risk getting involved with women at all? If the risks outweigh any possible rewards. As lately it seems no good deed goes unpunished.

Apparently saying "good morning" is already harassment. So to be honest, I understand the fear. Men have lots to lose, and little to gain.

I agree that ****rape is horrible, and rapists should be punished if not cut from society altogether.

But the problem is, women are now handed great power with zero responsibility over it. The law almost seems to assume women never lie...

Also where do we draw the line, is me being in the same room as a woman harassment? Or me disagreeing with her? Some would say yes to that already, and given any form of harassment can be used as grounds to be fired I'd much rather invest my time in increasing work skills and enjoying passtimes alone. Rather than risk losing my income and actual freedom over a misunderstanding.

Till men and women are legally equal also in responsibility and family court, I'm inclined to be cautious.

Most haven't though, really.

It's just that being kind is met with either caution or hostility. And eventually you stop trying.

Let's take a classic example, wishing one another a good day or keeping a door open if you see someone approaching.

The amount of times I've been accused to sexism, harassment or being "problematic" for holding a door open in the past two years could fill a small novel. Thus I still keep the door open, I still wish people a good day.

But only if that someone is another man. Safer that way.

Edit: If I hold the door I don't want to date you, a "thank you" would already make my day. But I see you've already twisted the intention to the negative. Which is kinda sad.

Are you deliberately missing the point?

I'm not talking about romances, coaching a female colleague can already get you in trouble if it's not recorded. She just has to make up any charge and you're done for.

Real ****rape victims should go to the police, and not tweet their hashtags on Twitter like a vengeful banshee.

Also, roughly 80% of harassment accusations in my country were fabrications. And I'm willing to go as far as to say 50% of all "rapes" here never actually happened.

Edit: and then there's this c*nt

Regarding primarily women:
The issue regarding repercussions is the most difficult part of it all though. From one side you could send a false accuser to jail for a long time, from the other you also don't want to scare actual victims away from reporting it.

Regarding men however:
Since #metoo took off the amount of accusations has grown over 10x. This on it's own wouldn't be a problem if the law worked. However many who have been acquitted still lost their family (divorce) still lost their jobs, still lost their integrity. Which can be seen in the male suicide number... Which has damn near tripped in the past two years. (Now nr 1 cause of death amongst men ages 18-50) (second being cancer and third cardiovascular issues) it would be nice if innocent until proven guilty was anything more than hollow words.

And now that women have true equality here they're steadily starting to realise how much it sucks.

#metoo was a weapon. An awakening that no woman can truly be fully trusted "in the legal sense". So the way we interact with one another has changed. It has become hostile and it will remain as such.

Why?

Isn't the way to end harm to address the harm? Ignoring, denying, covering up only leads to more.

Given there's no repercussions for false accusations and a woman can ruin your life in one word here I honestly see no way relations will restore in the near future.

And as long as a woman's word has more value than a man's life why would we "as men" bother with them at all?

I still have my hope in Eastern European women. They haven't been completely intoxicated with anti-male hatred "yet".

Ad hominem. Beautiful.

Going to have to close this post if we can't keep the personal attacks out of the debate.

Remember, we're all people on the other side of our screen names. We are all here to help, and bringing each other down is the opposite of helpful.

I'd like to know if any guys here have ever had their lives ruined by a false accusation of ****rape or sexual assault or harassment.

I'm guessing no.

And how many women here have been *****raped or sexually assaulted or harassed? I'm guessing more than half, possibly up to all.

So to me, the concern about false accusations seems unfounded.

It seems to me that until men and women can treat each other as individual people, not as objects to conquest or to ridicule, we're going to have more of the same. How about all women hating men just avoid women, and all man hating women avoid men? Or better yet, women hating men can treat women like men and man hating women can treat men like women.

Here??? You mean here at the Help Site that is a mere shadow of its former member participants?

What I want to know is how much Penguin I'm eating from my Dolphin-free tuna....?

Why are you guessing....? All you need to do is ask the same question in an industrial max-slam prison - because guys whose lives are destroyed by false accusations of ****rape and molestation aren't found in "therapy."
They are spending near-life sentences in prison. It's not called a "Prison Industry," without a reason. A woman seldom ever has to face who she is accusing and many States will carry charges on their behalf - it's never about right or wrong or innocence or guilt, it's about "safer-than-sorry" and who becomes the most liable.

Guessing again??? I want to know when guessing became the goddamm founding cornerstone of the critical decision-making process... Guessing wouldn't be the choice of instrument to determine your fate but why does it seem acceptable when regarding someone else?

To you? Of course - it's you. It's not that it lacks founding, it really seems to be based on the way you....feel....

https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/2012-...

Studies suggest the prevalence of false reporting on sexual assault is between 2% and 10%, according to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.

And there's a big caveat to those numbers: "Research shows that rates of false reporting are frequently inflated, in part because of inconsistent definitions and protocols," the resource center said.

Why is this person so angry?

Have you or someone you care about been falsely accused and had your life ruined? Why is this subject so personal to you @BA1 ?

Ten percent is not insignificant.

But for perspective, compare that to the number of sexual attacks that go unreported.

Both shouldn't happen. A victim shouldn't fear reporting and an innocent person shouldn't fear false accusations. So what's the solution that will resolve both?

Prompting, pushing, and prodding a person about their past- especially something as sensitive as this- in order to prove a point is both cruel and abusive. Nobody is required to disclose anything about their past.

Throwing facts in somebody’s face and telling them they’re wrong over and over again- again, unacceptable behavior.

It is clear that this topic can not be discussed without involving the other correspondents personally and discussion is clearly unhelpful for either side.

Closing this post. Any further attempt to push the discussion on anybody will be not be tolerated.