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Dont panic. Is ok. This is why people need to have faith ***xxx

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Aw poo haha i put 3 xs and it thinks im being rude haha i was givng kisses! Lol

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Dont panic. Its ok. This is why people need to have faith.

3 kisses LOL

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We have not got to be frightened but to seek god and really find him and lean on him.

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This might come off as harsh but COVID-19 is a very serious thing killing a lot of people and the time for indulging in conspiracy theories and spreading false information is at an end.

The patents that the video refer to exist....but they have nothing to do with COVID-19. They have to do with coronaviruses.

People say "coronavirus" when referring to COVID 19 but this isn't 100 percent accurate. COVID 19 is a type of coronavirus. SARS, for example, which is what one of the patents refers to, is another type of coronavirus.

The person talking through the distortion on the video is clearly NOT a doctor, but a big fat liar. Maybe the same guy in the beginning of the video? Who knows, who cares.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-co...

Check out the patents.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/1d/...

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/patent/US20062...

These are not patents for viruses. Or they sort of are, but not exactly? They are about specific components of different coronavirsues and how they could possibly be used in vaccines for those viruses. Not COVID, read the patent and you'll see. There is currently a lot of money and time being invested around the world trying to FIND a COVID-19 vaccine. They aren't doing that for the fun of it.

It took me 5-10 minutes of basic google research to disprove everything in this video. It's good that the video has sources at least, which we can check and verify. In this case, they misrepresented the sources and took facts out of context to make a controversial video that would increase their accounts visibility. Hopefully they get banned. This is a case where false information KILLS.

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And I'm sorry but something should have seemed fishy to you when they said that there was a secret plot to invent a disease and kill people and then sell the vaccine for it....so secret that they APPLIED FOR PUBLIC PATENTS.

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"Weak virus" that puts people in the hospital, "sunlight kills it", completely false, "Doesn't cause sneezing" well I had it and I sneezed. UGH. Liars, liars, liars, getting people hurt, hurt, hurt.

I'm not mad at you just venting that people make videos like that they know is false, pretend to be friggin' DOCTOR. GRRRRRR. I hate liars.

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Video already deleted. What I miss?

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Video already deleted. What I miss?

The video says that one company invented COVID years ago, a different one back in November invented a vaccine, then implies that it was intentionally released so the companies could cash in on the vaccine sales.

All the while leaving a public, easily traceable paper trail.

Luckily, the video provided some sources that could easily be checked and vetted and I proved the claims made by the person who made the video 100 percent false. Not cus I'm so smart, but cus I bothered to check the information.

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And had a guy pretending to be an "anonymous doctor" OMG how friggin' dishonest.

I'm sorry but this gets me worked up I'm not trying to be mean here but I'm at my wits end with people taking facts about COVID out of context and spreading false information. "Sunlight kills it" IF THAT WERE TRUE HOW THE HECK WOULD IT SPREAD. HAVE YOU SEEN THE PLANET EARTH? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED BUT SUNLIGHT IS EVERYWHERE.

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I googled the guy in the video, "dr" Rashid Buttar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

Fake doctor who's been spreading false information for profit for years.

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Okay. I had already seen that video posted elsewhere. Conspiracy theorists are always seeking new converts to influence. They think the more wild and crazier it is the more people will believe it. I am still surprised at the magazines in stores that still print Bull ****shit after Bull ****shit and people just eat it up like candy.
Jetmoo, I still love you but you need to be careful what you believe. XOXOXO

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Okay. I had already seen that video posted elsewhere. Conspiracy theorists are always seeking new converts to influence. They think the more wild and crazier it is the more people will believe it. I am still surprised at the magazines in stores that still print Bull ****shit after Bull ****shit and people just eat it up like candy.
Jetmoo, I still love you but you need to be careful what you believe. XOXOXO

I'm speaking specifically about the people who made and published/host the video, not anyone in this forum:

What bone has to be missing from your body to say lies like that? Like we all lie but to dedicate your life to lies like that...it's disgusting.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this point in my life but it ALWAYS puts a pit in my stomach. I feel bad that I turned into goop at this, COVID bs is clearly getting to me.

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And I'm sorry but something should have seemed fishy to you when they said that there was a secret plot to invent a disease and kill people and then sell the vaccine for it....so secret that they APPLIED FOR PUBLIC PATENTS.

Dude, my brain is about to lobotomize itself. Do you know how they decided to vaccinate against polio- they gace out vaccines to people for free (via sugar-cube for some). It's difficult to stimulate the state if no one can walk.

As for cost, that's always been the game with vaccines. When the US, UK, and some other folks find a better vaccine (one with fewer side-effects but better than the actual disease), then they sell it to someone else who either has nothing or has something crappier. Then those they sold it to, do the same when a newer vaccine is discovered. Fun.

The most infuriating this about these nonsensical conspiracy-theories is that they don't even make sense. Where's the effort? Just a waste of viable energy.

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The most infuriating this about these nonsensical conspiracy-theories is that they don't even make sense. Where's the effort? Just a waste of viable energy.

For whatever reason, it's human nature to hear something on the news, or hear something that anyone who you don't particular mistrust said, and believe it.

The thing I don't get is why people believe randos on the internet over experts who pay their bills with the work they do.

I get mistrusting authority. But that oughta apply to ANY authority, including a dude on the internet who says he knows what he's talking about.

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My point of view is that i feel responsible to tell people what is going on but it is hard for me because i dont have the energy to research everything as much as I want to. I have to be picky where i use my energy.

But i know that vaccines have harmful toxins in them. I know big pharma does not have the public in its best interest. I know the big companys work together to increase each of their profits.

I know that scientists and Drs can be corrupt. I know bill gates is not a Dr so he shouldnt be doing a Drs job.

I have so little faith in these people and feel the need to make people aware of dangers of vaccines and 5G and some other things aswell that i cant think of right now.

I still dont feel that the covid19 was natural and Trump himself said that the virus was "artificially induced". And i saw a tweat by Bill Gates from last year saying that he was looking forward for profits from vaccines the next year 2020.

It is hard to trust people who censor others. All people have the right to share their views and if people are stopped sharing their views online it will soon end up that people can not talk on the streets unless they are conforming the the authorities. People are not alllowed to question the authorities so then authorities can get away wih whaever they want. Authorities have double standards and it is ok for them to do something but not ok for the public to do it.

They even censor when people dicuss vaccines harms but those who are vaccine harmed are told they are just mentally ill and it couldnt possibly be from the vaccines. It is exactly thee sae way people with ME have been treated for years. People have died abslutely torturous deaths from ME and abuse. If vaccines can not harm people then there should be no reluctance to discuss them.

I have seen so much corruption it is so hard for me to trust authorities. Those further down the heirachy may have peoples best interrests at heart but that doesnt mean those higher up the heirachy have our best interests at heart. And people futher down the heirachy will not get to now of all the discussins that take place with those above them. They sieve out the information and only tell them what they want them to know.

And they seem to be using drones to spy on everyone and even facebook monitors every single website you go on. There is a setting you have to click to delete all the sites you have visted on it. I cleared mine.

They are invading peoples privacy all the time. They even listen through mobiles when you have not requested the phone to take notice of your talking. My carer was talking about snow boarding with me and later when she came back she said that she was looking online and in her adverts it came up snowboarding holidays. I think thats because the phone listens to everything. I have put bluattack over every camera lens on my phone and i pad. Maybe i shud do it on the sounds part too?

I have an understanding of biology that many people do not have so i feel responsible to make people aware. But it is hard to get all the info together to do everything properly and i always sacrfice my health trying to do so.

I have heard many stories about the covid19. A nurse in newyork says that people are getting treated less than human in hosiptals and says all new york hospitals need investigating.

I heard from someone who i think is n england say someting simliar bu they were not my friend, i saw it on a friend own post. They had see the newyork girls post and said she believes it considering how her dad was treated.

Also hospitals get more money for every covid19 patient they have and some corrupt drs are changing death certificaes to portray a larger number of covid19 patients.

There have been people online who have said that they were told they tested positive for covid19 even though they had never had any blood test and they were told they would have to go in the covid19 ward even though they kept telling them they had never been tested and had undelying health problems that put them at very high risk if put in the ward so the person discharged themselves and were told they would not be given their medication if they dischared themselves. But not everyone has family to stand up for them and this person hasnt the only one who mentions this kind of treatment either.

There is alot of fishy buisiness going on. My gut tells me something is not right many things are not right. But its a matter of figuring out where the facts lie between the truth and deception.

Someone told me the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle and i think theyre right. People are deceived because those who lie usually use alot of facts to back up their lies. And because people see those truths they think it is all true.

It is unbelieveable that we have been deceived so much. The amount of things i have learnt the last year is unbelievable. Life has truely been a massive illusion. If only people knew what i knew. Even things i was taught at collage have not all been fact but were taught as fact.

Children in schools are being taught facts that are not facts at all but assumptions masqurading as facts. For example evolution theory is nothing but a theory but it is taught as if it is a fact. The big bang theory is taught as if it a fact but it is nothing but a theory. Creationism is also a theory that people cannot prove. But it is put in religion instead of science. Perhaps the other theories coild be moved to philosophy or arleast made clear to be unproven theories not facts.

Even the new world translations bible seems to have been meddled with, it seems the watchtower first began from a freemason and there is alot of deception there. And i felt that there may be some false truths going on but thought i had kept my eyes open. I never realised it was as corrupt as it seems to be.

It makes you wonder what do you truely believe anymore? The only thing we can truely believe is what we see with our own eyes rather than what someone else tells us.

It seems even NASA has lied to people. One thing i have looked in to more is the earth being flat. I laughed at first thinking people were nuts but it makes alot of sense when you take the time to understand the facts that support this way if thinking.

Perhaps if it had not been for a friend who had passed away afew years ago then i may not have even bothered to question it and research it. But he had had discussions with someone else and i was watching on fb of them disagreeing with each other on afew things. I didnt like the other guy and thought that my frined must not like him very much either but when i spoke with my friend he said the other guy is a nice guy and he likes to hear odifferent peoples views. And said its good to see different peoples perspectives. And its the one thing i took from him and tried to do the same myself since. I am thankful for that lesson.

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Listen to jetmoo. She knows what she is talking about.

❤ it is true that there are multiple strains of the virus but my gut still tells me this is not natural and was caused deliberately.

Man himself makes these viruses when they feed the cattle with antibiotics and over use antibiotics with people and cause antibiotic resistence and over using antibacterial spray.

Its crazy when you think about it because there are many ways of improving immunity without resorting to it methods that cause antibiotic resistence.

But authorities will have us falsely believe that vit c is not so effective and tat high doses are harmful which is ludicrous hen yu see the research showing vit c getting rid of sepsis and pneumonia and reducing death rates.

Even trump apparently suggested people drinking disinfectant. But we need to have some bacteria in our bodies. Its all about finding the right balance.

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Jetmoo wrote:
My point of view is that i feel responsible to tell people what is going on but it is hard for me because i dont have the energy to research everything as much as I want to. I have to be picky where i use my energy.

But i know that vaccines have harmful toxins in them. I know big pharma does not have the public in its best interest. I know the big companys work together to increase each of their profits.

I know that scientists and Drs can be corrupt. I know bill gates is not a Dr so he shouldnt be doing a Drs job.

I have so little faith in these people and feel the need to make people aware of dangers of vaccines and 5G and some other things aswell that i cant think of right now.

I still dont feel that the covid19 was natural and Trump himself said that the virus was "artificially induced". And i saw a tweat by Bill Gates from last year saying that he was looking forward for profits from vaccines the next year 2020.

It is hard to trust people who censor others. All people have the right to share their views and if people are stopped sharing their views online it will soon end up that people can not talk on the streets unless they are conforming the the authorities. People are not alllowed to question the authorities so then authorities can get away wih whaever they want. Authorities have double standards and it is ok for them to do something but not ok for the public to do it.

They even censor when people dicuss vaccines harms but those who are vaccine harmed are told they are just mentally ill and it couldnt possibly be from the vaccines. It is exactly thee sae way people with ME have been treated for years. People have died abslutely torturous deaths from ME and abuse. If vaccines can not harm people then there should be no reluctance to discuss them.

I have seen so much corruption it is so hard for me to trust authorities. Those further down the heirachy may have peoples best interrests at heart but that doesnt mean those higher up the heirachy have our best interests at heart. And people futher down the heirachy will not get to now of all the discussins that take place with those above them. They sieve out the information and only tell them what they want them to know.

And they seem to be using drones to spy on everyone and even facebook monitors every single website you go on. There is a setting you have to click to delete all the sites you have visted on it. I cleared mine.

They are invading peoples privacy all the time. They even listen through mobiles when you have not requested the phone to take notice of your talking. My carer was talking about snow boarding with me and later when she came back she said that she was looking online and in her adverts it came up snowboarding holidays. I think thats because the phone listens to everything. I have put bluattack over every camera lens on my phone and i pad. Maybe i shud do it on the sounds part too?

I have an understanding of biology that many people do not have so i feel responsible to make people aware. But it is hard to get all the info together to do everything properly and i always sacrfice my health trying to do so.

I have heard many stories about the covid19. A nurse in newyork says that people are getting treated less than human in hosiptals and says all new york hospitals need investigating.

I heard from someone who i think is n england say someting simliar bu they were not my friend, i saw it on a friend own post. They had see the newyork girls post and said she believes it considering how her dad was treated.

Also hospitals get more money for every covid19 patient they have and some corrupt drs are changing death certificaes to portray a larger number of covid19 patients.

There have been people online who have said that they were told they tested positive for covid19 even though they had never had any blood test and they were told they would have to go in the covid19 ward even though they kept telling them they had never been tested and had undelying health problems that put them at very high risk if put in the ward so the person discharged themselves and were told they would not be given their medication if they dischared themselves. But not everyone has family to stand up for them and this person hasnt the only one who mentions this kind of treatment either.

There is alot of fishy buisiness going on. My gut tells me something is not right many things are not right. But its a matter of figuring out where the facts lie between the truth and deception.

Someone told me the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle and i think theyre right. People are deceived because those who lie usually use alot of facts to back up their lies. And because people see those truths they think it is all true.

It is unbelieveable that we have been deceived so much. The amount of things i have learnt the last year is unbelievable. Life has truely been a massive illusion. If only people knew what i knew. Even things i was taught at collage have not all been fact but were taught as fact.

Children in schools are being taught facts that are not facts at all but assumptions masqurading as facts. For example evolution theory is nothing but a theory but it is taught as if it is a fact. The big bang theory is taught as if it a fact but it is nothing but a theory. Creationism is also a theory that people cannot prove. But it is put in religion instead of science. Perhaps the other theories coild be moved to philosophy or arleast made clear to be unproven theories not facts.

Even the new world translations bible seems to have been meddled with, it seems the watchtower first began from a freemason and there is alot of deception there. And i felt that there may be some false truths going on but thought i had kept my eyes open. I never realised it was as corrupt as it seems to be.

It makes you wonder what do you truely believe anymore? The only thing we can truely believe is what we see with our own eyes rather than what someone else tells us.

It seems even NASA has lied to people. One thing i have looked in to more is the earth being flat. I laughed at first thinking people were nuts but it makes alot of sense when you take the time to understand the facts that support this way if thinking.

Perhaps if it had not been for a friend who had passed away afew years ago then i may not have even bothered to question it and research it. But he had had discussions with someone else and i was watching on fb of them disagreeing with each other on afew things. I didnt like the other guy and thought that my frined must not like him very much either but when i spoke with my friend he said the other guy is a nice guy and he likes to hear odifferent peoples views. And said its good to see different peoples perspectives. And its the one thing i took from him and tried to do the same myself since. I am thankful for that lesson.

Whew. That is a lot. Some of which I agree with, a lot of which I don't. I fact checked the article posted because it was on a specific topic, and it was frankly very easy to do and didn't take me much time.

There is way more in what you are saying than I have the time or energy myself to engage with entirely. It's not my job to disavow you of all your incorrect beliefs, despite it is indeed my urge too, as I too, see it as my responsibility to share Truth with people and to help people become more critical thinkers and think more clearly on things.

I will just respond to a few things that you said.


First, I am sorry that have and health issue that limits your energy in the way that you are saying.

That said, if you are not sure something is true (and this is a case where you clearly were not sure) DO NOT SHARE IT. You just shared misinformation about an INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY. That is extremely IRRESPONSIBLE.

Good rule of thumb:

If it is not worth your time to fact-check questionable information, it is not worth your time to share it. Period.


I do not think the issue here is that you do not trust authorities. I say that because in posting this video trusting an authority is exactly what you did. The only difference is that this authority agreed with something you already believed or already had an inclination to believe. You said yourself a few times that "your gut tells you* and that "you feel x y or z". So it seems to me any information that confirms your hunches is getting a free pass on your internal skepticism filter.

If you hear a random, unsourced pieced of information that exactly fits in with your already held beliefs or attitudes, the fact that it does so is EVEN MORE OF A REASON TO FACT CHECK IT.

People who make videos like this know that there is a lot of mistrust of government and scientists. They take advantage of this. You were manipulated into giving this person's misinformation account more visibility on the internet so they can get more hits on their other videos and more monetization.

Donald Trump has never studied medicine a day in his life. His opinion about what a virus is or isn't is about as meaningful as my opinion, which is to say, not meaningful AT ALL. Trump wants people to think China invented the virus because he wants people to blame China for all the blood that is on his hands so that he'll get to be King of America for another 4 years.

The theory of evolution and the flatness/sphericalness of the Earth seems completely off topic to me, you oughta make a different topic if you want to discuss that stuff. Preferably separate ones.

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Sorry if that comes off as aggressive or harsh but this is a topic I'm a little hot-headed about.

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I also share different views on different things. But if the reader wants to check things then thats their choice aswell.

What you say is an opinion and opinions are neither right nor wrong. They simply are

Its not my job to take care of everyone else. It is not possible to please everyone 100% of the time. People will always disagree.

Two different people can respond completely differently to the same thing. How someone responds to simuli is not up to me. It is up to that person how they choose to respond. I cant live in fear of not speaking incase i displease someone.

I ofcourse try not to but free speech is something we all have a right to aswell and freewill to make our own decisions
If one is distressed by stimuli then id advise them to look the other way.

I dont think its my job to anticipate what everyone thinls and feels.

And as much as i care about people sometimes the truth hurts but is best said in the long term.id rather people told ne the truth then kept it from me.

And what one thinks is a credible source on the internet another will disagree. It is impossible to please everyone. Trying to please everyone is not a healthy way to live.

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"If it is not worth your time to fact-check questionable information, it is not worth your time to share it."

I dont think thats very fair @Lano its not about not having time, its about not having health.

U made it sound like i had much a choice. My health is not a choice.

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And what u state as being questionable is a matter of opinion. What u see as being auestionable may not be to another person. Opinions are never factual and are neither right nor wrong.

No one on this planet is perfect so i dont think u have the authority to judge me.

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The theory of evolution and the flatness/sphericalness of the Earth seems completely off topic to me, you oughta make a different topic if you want to discuss that stuff.

When people tell others what they should or should not do it suggestive that they themselves feel they are above others and can be offenssive.

Can i suggest that instead of telling people what to do, that you make suggestions instead. Then it sounds like u r trying to be helpful rather than criticising people. As most people would react at those kinds of words.

The word should is an offensive word aswell and other words that suggest the same meaning as the word should. Because it is always used as a criticism towards another. And never for any positive suggestion.

Saying you outta is effectively the same as saying you should.

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It's not my job to disavow you of all your incorrect beliefs

if u dont want to do something then please dont. I dont want anyone to do anything they feel obliged to do, as if i am a burden. Id rather someone did something for another because they wanted to. Not because they felt they had to.

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The theory of evolution and the flatness/sphericalness of the Earth seems completely off topic to me, you oughta make a different topic if you want to discuss that stuff.

When people tell others what they should or should not do it suggestive that they themselves feel they are above others and can be offenssive.

Can i suggest that instead of telling people what to do, that you make suggestions instead. Then it sounds like u r trying to be helpful rather than criticising people. As most people would react at those kinds of words.

The word should is an offensive word aswell and other words that suggest the same meaning as the word should. Because it is always used as a criticism towards another. And never for any positive suggestion.

Saying you outta is effectively the same as saying you should.

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It's not my job to disavow you of all your incorrect beliefs

if u dont want to do something then please dont. I dont want anyone to do anything they feel obliged to do, as if i am a burden. Id rather someone did something for another because they wanted to. Not because they felt they had to.

I said "should" and I mean it. The video is not about evolution or what shape the earth is. I'm sorry if it came off offensive. You do not have to listen to me, do whatever you want.

"if u don't want to do something"

You missed the part where I said I did want to do it.

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"If it is not worth your time to fact-check questionable information, it is not worth your time to share it."

I dont think thats very fair @Lano its not about not having time, its about not having health.

U made it sound like i had much a choice. My health is not a choice.

Your health is not your choice, but sharing information that you did not know whether or not it was true was a choice.

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I also share different views on different things. But if the reader wants to check things then thats their choice aswell.

What you say is an opinion and opinions are neither right nor wrong. They simply are

Its not my job to take care of everyone else. It is not possible to please everyone 100% of the time. People will always disagree.

Two different people can respond completely differently to the same thing. How someone responds to simuli is not up to me. It is up to that person how they choose to respond. I cant live in fear of not speaking incase i displease someone.

I ofcourse try not to but free speech is something we all have a right to aswell and freewill to make our own decisions
If one is distressed by stimuli then id advise them to look the other way.

I dont think its my job to anticipate what everyone thinls and feels.

And as much as i care about people sometimes the truth hurts but is best said in the long term.id rather people told ne the truth then kept it from me.

And what one thinks is a credible source on the internet another will disagree. It is impossible to please everyone. Trying to please everyone is not a healthy way to live.

We all do make mistakes and I understand that, and if I was capable of saying what I said in a way that wasn't offensive I would have but I don't know how to when it comes to this. People are dying everyday by the hundreds. I am less concerned with other people's feelings when it comes to false information about COVID 19.


Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No one is entitled to their own facts.


I am paraphrasing but you said something to the effect that you do not trust Bill Gates and think maybe he shouldn't be involved with vaccines or whatever.

Okay. That is fine. The stuff you wrote yourself is an opinion and you presented it as such, for the most part. I do not judge you for that. Feel free to express your opinion.

Again, even if your opinion is "I think COVID is perfectly safe and not killing anyone and this is all a waste." Again, fine, your opinion. I will vehemently disagree because all the facts say otherwise, but you are allowed to express it.

What I DO judge is sharing a video that presents opinion as fact and intentionally misrepresents facts in order to increase their account's visibility or push a political agenda.

That is what this video was doing. You do not have a right to pretend you are a doctor and share false information about an illness that is killing people. You do not get to be self-righteous about lying to people and claim "well, I have free speech!" That is wrong.

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Can i please make the suggestion that when something said stirs angry emotions that u allow yourself time to cool off before responding. Then perhaps you might find ways to express yourself whilst sounding less offensive.

Please do not insinuate that i have deliberately gone out of my way to lie.

Perhaps if u have nothing nice or neutral to say then perhaps it would be better to not say anything.

I feel this is turning into an argument. Arguments are not healthy for anyone. I am not very well and neither are u by the sounds of it and i dont think either of us need that kind of stress

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Perhaps if u have nothing nice or neutral to say then perhaps it would be better to not say anything.

I usually don't, but this is a case where people might die.

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Perhaps if u have nothing nice or neutral to say then perhaps it would be better to not say anything.

I usually don't, but this is a case where people might die.

And that is also why i have shared it because i feel the same way for different reasons to yourself. I may not be perfect but i try and help people because i care about them. Im not perfect but at least i try and help people see a bigger view of things going on around them. It is up to each individual to decide for themselves what they believe.

I did not lie. I simply shared a video that i thought was interesting and could interest others aswell. I did not make it.

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I think we are at an impasse here but I hope you reconsider.

And if I see videos on here about COVID that I fact-check and are false I will be there making comments and making sure people know the truth.

And I am not singling you out I mean that generally.

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I think people have the right to free speech without being feeling theyre being attacked for it.

Even in ur own eyes do u not believe that two wrongs do not make a right?

If i should share a video again then please do not comment on it at all if you are going to judge me negatively on a personal level. I am aware of your views and if you wish to make ur own post about how you feel then you are free to do so.

But the judgement that u hold against others causes division and i dont want to be a part of it.

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Jetmoo wrote:
I think people have the right to free speech without being feeling theyre being attacked for it.

Even in ur own eyes do u not believe that two wrongs do not make a right?

If i should share a video again then please do not comment on it at all if you are going to judge me negatively on a personal level. I am aware of your views and if you wish to make ur own post about how you feel then you are free to do so.

But the judgement that u hold against others causes division and i dont want to be a part of it.

Don't worry, I won't judge you personally. We had this discussion and we do not need to have it again.

But I will say if the information is false. Sorry if you don't like that but this is a public forum and I have a right to share as much as you.

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Lano wrote:

Jetmoo wrote:
I think people have the right to free speech without being feeling theyre being attacked for it.

Even in ur own eyes do u not believe that two wrongs do not make a right?

If i should share a video again then please do not comment on it at all if you are going to judge me negatively on a personal level. I am aware of your views and if you wish to make ur own post about how you feel then you are free to do so.

But the judgement that u hold against others causes division and i dont want to be a part of it.

Don't worry, I won't judge you personally. We had this discussion and we do not need to have it again.

But I will say if the information is false. Sorry if you don't like that but this is a public forum and I have a right to share as much as you.

I have requested a peaceful resolution. I dont have the cognitive ability right now to express properly. But i know you do not have the right to bully or harrass me. Or anyone else.

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Jetmoo wrote:

I have requested a peaceful resolution. I dont have the cognitive ability right now to express properly. But i know you do not have the right to bully or harrass me. Or anyone else.

I am not a bully if a point out something someone is saying is untrue.

Please do not misunderstand me. This is not personal for me. I am not trying to make you feel bad. I just don't want misinformation to be spread.

Please do not call me a bully. That is not what this is about.

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According to the terms of the site, no infractions have happened. However, both parties seem to unwilling to back down from this argument. As such I will be closing this post.

Padre Speaking: It is my opinion, that everyone has the right to speak, and the right to share what they wish (within the terms and conditions).
However, if something controversial is posted, then it is reasonable to expect a polarized response.

It is also my personal opinion, that if someone is sharing information for the purpose of educating others, that the person doing the sharing is responsible to ensure that what is shared is accurate. If that means taking some extra time to research before sharing so be it.

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