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so..

who wants to bet who's gonna win the election.. i really dont care who wins but to me it seems either one could win..

if biden wins.. np.. the media will stfu and resume normalcy .. if trump wins this tells the world what america is all about. meh i dc im too busy for this.

* humbly bows out *

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According to polls, Trump is going to lose.

However, polls also said he'd lose in 2016, and we know how that turned out.

Another factor is Republicans and the Trump campaign are actively trying to make it harder to vote in some key states, zeroing in on districts that are likely to vote Democrat. Even if polls show Biden up in florida, for example, a last minute poll place subtraction could tip the balance in Trump's favor.


I think Trump has already won in the sense you're talking about of "showing the world what America is about." Or maybe Fox News won? the point is, even if Trump loses, he's going to lose narrowly...which is just sad given what a terrible President he's been. People do not judge their politicians based on performance anymore, apparently.

The stakes are high. It's a matter of survival. COVID is just the tip of the iceberg. If Trump stays around things are going to get a lot worse and quickly.

And the pathetic thing is his approval rating won't go under 40 percent. Even if we went into a full scale depression, I'd wager. ugh.

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I sort of have a feeling that this weekend will tell a lot. Rumors of a siege on the white house, etc....and ETC.

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Trump will not lose but he will not continue to be our POTUS. Let me explain.

Before the final tally of all the votes in all the states Trump will resign still thinking in his mind he won. This is how much he hates to lose so he will quit before that happens. Within 72 hours Pence will be sworn in as the interim President and his first act as POTUS will be to give Trump a full and complete pardon. This will protect him from any Federal charges only. The rest of his life will be spent holed up in another country while his lawyers fight thousands of civil law suits. He will die a destitute.

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soco wrote:
Trump will not lose but he will not continue to be our POTUS. Let me explain.

Before the final tally of all the votes in all the states Trump will resign still thinking in his mind he won. This is how much he hates to lose so he will quit before that happens. Within 72 hours Pence will be sworn in as the interim President and his first act as POTUS will be to give Trump a full and complete pardon. This will protect him from any Federal charges only. The rest of his life will be spent holed up in another country while his lawyers fight thousands of civil law suits. He will die a destitute.

That would be a nice irony.

I think he will lose and try to say it was rigged, force recounts or try to invalidate people's votes.

No matter who wins it's going to be the least legitimate election in history. Country is in for some dark times if we don't win senate, house and presidency.

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I think a lot of people think it's all just hype. But we are really at a turning point and it's not even necessarily linked to Trump, Democrats, or Republicans.

All our lives and this country are going to change a lot in the next twenty years. It's shocking how Covid happening is not enough to wake people up to that.

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i honestly wanted bill weld to be our president..

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or ron paul

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or ron paul

My take on Ron Paul and his son Rand is they are establishment Republicans who pretend to be idealogically libertarian to seem like mavericks and to stand out in politics. Both want/wanted to be President very badly.

I remember thinking Ron Paul sounded pretty reasonable when he was running for President but he was frothing at the mouth about the deep state during impeachment. Any politician, especially a congressman, who seriously talks about the deep state is a complete yahoo.

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well it would be alot more interesting to see how they would handle the presidency based on their ideological values. its something i would like to see de facto for a major change

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NacthoMan wrote:
well it would be alot more interesting to see how they would handle the presidency based on their ideological values. its something i would like to see de facto for a major change

It depends what that idealogy is right? And if its just a gimmick to get publicity. Saying off tbe wall stuff gets you publicity

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also getting rid of filibuster would help since it would mean parties would have to put up or shut up when they were in power.

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explain how the filibuster is a problem well yea .. to me it seems like talking your head off to stop a ratification. helluva tool

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NacthoMan wrote:
explain how the filibuster is a problem well yea .. to me it seems like talking your head off to stop a ratification. helluva tool

Thats the thing...unless something dramatic happens no party is ever going to have sixty members in the Senate. Which means the party that "lost" will always have a sort of semi veto in place to keep the party that "won" from doing everything it wants.

I say, get rid of it. Now the party that wins can do what it wants. See how they govern. Does it make people's lives better? If so the party that's actually getting stuff done will keep winning and there will be a lot less pointless grandstanding.

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