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[quote]`Test.`[/quote]

Yep! Will also possibly be adding soon the changes from edits so you can see what was changed between edits any way.

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[quote]`Test.`[/quote]

So back to the implementation-
Do we want polls to be editable, or is it best to lock them in once they’re set to avoid changing options?
If goals are editable- do we want options editable as well?

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[quote]`Test.`[/quote]

Yͤͭͥ̇eti. wrote:
I was gonna vote helpbot is depressed, but they made it seem like a binary choice. Then I found out someone had already voted the same and wanted to change to helpbot is depressed, yet was informed that would introduce statistical bias.
Ultimately, helpbot doesn't get the love helpbot deserves cus nobody thinks about helpbot's welfare first.

😵

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This is from the _Wayback Machine_ on archive.org .

Sweet! I messaged the developer that built the format that we all came to know and love, but never heard back from him. 😞

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This is from the _Wayback Machine_ on archive.org .

Cool! 😄

Help.com went through a number of evolutions, and actually- that wasn't even the first!

https://web.archive.org/web/19981212023851/http...

Seeing stuff like that is a little scary... But that's how the internet used to look!

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[quote]`Test.`[/quote]

soco wrote:

Rockster160 wrote:
Polls currently cannot be edited- due to the fact the poster would be able to technically change the votes that users have done. Do you recall how that was handled in the past, or, more importantly- can you think of a better method of handling it?

My sincere apologies Yeti. I only was trying to edit the markdown code because it wasn't appearing right on my end. Makes since now to have polls uneditable. But I honestly did not know this ahead of time. So sorry.

It was already broken. 😄

It will actually still be working if it’s edited and the poll is changed to [poll]

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[quote]`Test.`[/quote]

Yͤͭͥ̇eti. wrote:
Well, from the user perspective, I concur regarding the anonymity - only the db knows who voted what, and provides counts to voters.

Sorry- by anonymity, I was referring to the fact that the current votes are hidden until a user has voted. So before a vote- they only see the options. Then they vote "B". Then the current standings are revealed. They see that everybody else voted "A". Out of embarrassment, they then change their answer to "A"- successfully rendering the results as biased as users change their vote to fit the norm. (Despite being anonymous, users are still inclined to vote for the popular options.)

Yͤͭͥ̇eti. wrote:
As for the static vote, if we take the practical example of, say, a feature list - once you've added a new suggestion, potentially everyone might prefer this one, now that it's been brought up; when a feature is complete, those who have voted on it may opt for their second preference.

I would say in this case, a second poll/post would be made, as many things could have changed between the times, new users could be around, etc.

Yͤͭͥ̇eti. wrote:
Why do you consider fuzzy matching to complicate things for the user? Isn't it exactly the same as writing the poll out in the first place?

My concern would be the fact that they may attempt to change the text for an option to add clarity. For example, "Broken stuff"
Nobody understood, so they edit for clarity: "Things that have been destroyed." A fuzzy text would see no resemblance, and thus- a new option would be created, but the user expected/wanted to simply edit the existing option. The loss of votes would be confusing. Especially if the option was edited in the same place as the previous one.

A possible fix would be to replace the markdown for the poll with a more advanced style. This would be confusing, but assuming people aren't NORMALLY going to be editing polls anyway it might be okay.

So to start, a user might enter

[poll Option 1, Option 2, Option 3]

But the server would change that into

[poll:12345]
[option:123 Option 1]
[option:124 Option 2]
[option:125 Option 3]
[/poll]

Then options could be edited, reordered, removed, or added. It's definitely more complex, but allows for more control without relying on fuzzy text.

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[quote]`Test.`[/quote]

I was talking about the user-facing parts. 😄 The code is easy regardless.

I'm more worried about keeping the integrity of the poll and keeping it easily-usable.

Most polls don't allow for votes to be changed, and anonymize the results until the vote is made to keep the results unbiased from previous answers. I thought it would make sense to have the editing of the poll work the same way- but maybe not.

A fuzzy match on the options is doable, I just worry about over-complicating it for people. Plus fuzzy matching isn't the most reliable when it comes to editing things. It might be adding an apostrophe, but it might also be changing the entire sentence structure and words of an option because people weren't able to understand it so it was edited for clarity.

Removing options and allowing for revotes on removed options I feel like would get messy on a user's perspective quickly though.

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Good point on the favorited replies- as of now, the favorites are kept, but a user isn't able to choose a new reply. Maybe the best way to handle both situations would be to remove all of the previously selected options, opening the ability to revote/refavorite a different reply. As far as bringing back the old options- not an issue with favorites since you can change your favorite reply- not sure how to handle that cleanly unless we just say it's a far enough edge case that it's not that big of an issue. 🤔
I don't like the cop-out, but I'm not sure how else to keep it clean and consistent.
Unless we just bail on the whole no-editing thing and have it be free game.

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People like you based only on how much they can fuck with you.

My relationships are based on company, more than anything else. I enjoy keeping people around that seem to enjoy being in my company and the other way around. I expect nothing outside of company.

I "use" people to get rid of my loneliness, I guess. 😉

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[quote]`Test.`[/quote]

And one the poll is created for a post- you can't create a new one either... May change that though. I seem to remember only 1 poll per post being allowed. 🤷‍♂️

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