Fun fact time! Did you know that the song came to Paul McCartney just after his mother Mary passed away and he was going through some hard times and had a dream about her?

A lot of people seem to think it's referring to the Catholic idea of The Virgin Mary, but it actually is just a dream he had about his mum.

College professor? You're joking right? I'm a high school drop-out, and it seems through example, I still have more of a grasp of grammar compared to you. But even if I did have a college education, and if I was so inclined to pick apart everything you have said in your original statement/observance, I'm rather tempted to point out that my country has socialized health insurance. Y'know, the one that most USians tremble in fear of because it must be a pre-communist scheme...

Yet for some reason, I often hear that many from the USA are fascinated of where I live and would love to visit. Funny that...considering we seem to have a commie way of doing things.

Political correctness has ****fuck all to do with what I said. In fact, I don't even know what I allegedly said that was even considered politically correct - I didn't even try. Could you point me out to what you noticed? Because I'm genuinely wondering with how to become more self-aware.

I didn't say you were putting women down, I said I was alarmed that I saw "young American women" and sorry to have to point this out; but it is based on an ingrained sexist observation when you seem to think that women are more vulnerable than men. Us women are apparently the victims, but men are genuinely suffering from Bi-Polar? What? That doesn't even make sense unless you're eluding to the idea that women are more naive, gullible or susceptible than male patients.

If you meant "everyone who falls prey", then why did you single out "young American women?"

When I thought of checking into the site today, I said to myself "don't reply, even if something seems like bait to debate, even if something gets you upset to the point that you feel you have to respond. This place is not the way it used to be."

I'm breaking that promise.

First, it was the whole "young american women" thing. Because wow, that's pretty sexist. I know men who are bi-polar. Some who are very dear to me, and who I would take a bullet for...even when NOT depressed.

Then, it's the first Anonymous reply who said this;

"My biggest issue with it, is they don't have any way to know what works up front. They want to try all these different type of psycho pills just to see which one works and if they work the way they want them too. That's not even an educated guess. It's just totally guessing. There should be enough science understood behind these drugs to know what drug will work best for each patient, rather than just sticking someone on a drug and seeing if it is the right choice"

I'd have put the above in a quote block, but I cannot remember how do do so at this point in time.

Just because two or more people have the same diagnosis, does not mean the same medications will work. No matter what science is done, there will always be variations and exceptions. That is why it is important for a patient to remain in contact with their general practitioner and/or psychiatrist at all times. Some just by a few different factors. A medicine can work for a time, and then suddenly STOP working because the body itself has become immune, or unchanged from the induced chemicals. This could be after five YEARS of it functioning.

Some patients have adverse effects from a medication that are actually dangerous. For instance my mother, who has Schizo-effective Disorder, (a combination of Bi-Polar and Schizophrenia) has found success in mirtazapine. The drug itself, is an anti-depressant that has properties of treating anxiety.

After one dose of it (only a mere quarter of one tablet) I actually became psychotic less than 24 hours later due to it's sedative effects. It turned out, that shockingly, it tends to have an adverse affect on those with a family history of Bi-Polar. Of which my mother has and it worked for. Of which I do NOT have, and it actually made me worse.

My cousin has Bi-Polar, and anorexia. She has tried medications from Seroquel, to Solian, to Lithium (which in this country, is often considered a "last resort" when a person seems to exhausted other options.

When my mother was diagnosed almost 40 years ago, she was only given one diagnosis in the beginning. Mental heath and brain chemical imbalances have come a LONG way since then. Not until I was almost an adult, was it further understood that she had the combination of illnesses. And through the breakthrough of a new medication on the market, it worked.

I spent My infancy, my childhood and my teenage years watching my mom spiral up and down and go in and out of hospital, or self-harming herself. And yes, sometimes only ONCE A YEAR. There were years that there was barely an issue.

She has been well now for almost 20 years because of updated research, understanding and medical advances.

Myself, I have Major Depressive Disorder, C-PTSD (more advanced than PTSD - a rare diagnosis that is mostly reserved for those who are war veterans, or severe child abuse victims) Anxiety Disorder two Cluster C Personality Disorders. I was very very lucky, fortunate and a unique case where it was only the third medication I had tried that actually worked for me, and has continued to do so for the last 4 years.

That does not mean it always will. Nor does it mean that if it ever does stop improving my condition, it means that it was a sham all along, and quite frankly, I am rather appalled and offended by that notion.

I have sacrificed a LOT in the last few years. More than most would understand, in order to find a solution. I found one. And it's one that I am grateful for despite of what it effects in my life. It may actually prevent me from having more children...which I crave more than almost anything.

It's not a "guessing" game.

"The whole process of diagnosing the proper drug for the proper illness is totally f***** up!"

You ever met a cancer patient who has reacted the same way to chemotherapy or radiation therapy as another? Have you ever met a person who's physical (not mental illness related) pain hasn't responded to one or more drugs, but does to a another particular one?

You know what I think? I think that in the more recent times, mental illness and mental disorders have become less of a stigma and more of an everyday talking point, that others just don't want to accept or believe it, because they WANT to believe that "crazy people" should shut up and be invisible like they used to be. And when we're not...it makes you others uncomfortable.

Well you know what? Tough ****shit. We're here, we're dealing with what we can, and we are seeking help to cope and manage everyday as best we can.

I have to admit, my first reaction when I saw your title was "and how do they think it makes you feel since you're the one going through it?!" Yes, someone dealing with anxiety or other issues is stressful, it's hard when you don't know what to do, or how is the best way to help. Ie; a good friend of mine and my mother's is currently unwell with her schizophrenia and it's stressing my mom out to be around her, but I can't help but wonder for all the stress it's causing my mom...what kind of personal hell must our friend be going through? Probably the same way I feel when I'm having a panic attack or depressive episode and other's tell me how stressed out I'm making them...

It usually makes us feel worse to be told that our illness is an inconvenience and annoyance to them. Because just a lovely stroll in the park for us in comparison, isn't it? And then you have that a-hole in our heads saying we're a burden, and around and around it goes again.

As daunting as meds are, and as hateful as it can be to take them, if they work, then that's at least a step forward. Perhaps you won't need them forever, but the medication can sometimes just take the edge off and give you the ability and level-headness to manage and give yourself a break. Perhaps enough to figure out what your stress triggers are, and how to recognize and find a different strategy to deal with them.

For me, headphones, sunglasses and a hat worked best for me at first when I went out, I was able to feel "safe" and less stressed when I felt I still had control of my personal space. If I got too stressed out, I'd had music I could lose myself in, and I didn't notice the crowds and noise so much. Eventually, I just had the headphones hanging around my neck and used them less and less, then I could sometimes take the hat off, etc. There's times I still need headphones for the "bigger" things, so I have a safety net to fall back on, but I don't need to feel like I need a disguise when I do my grocery shopping anymore, and that was a huge thing for me.

Exercise can be good to release stress and tire yourself out enough to not have the energy, but, it can also have drawbacks too, but exhaustion, can also lead to stress and therefore more anxiety. I learned that the first time I started the Insanity work out and didn't even make it through more than 11 minutes of the Fit Test.

The medication might be temporary, or it might not. But I would speak to a medical/therapy specialist about it, and whatever you do, be careful...some medication can actually cause you to get worse if you stop them suddenly without doctor supervision. Mine certainly does, especially since I'm on the highest dose. So if you find yourself getting stressed after getting back on the meds, do not stop taking them without talking to your doctor. They may need to wean you off by dropping the dosage first to avoid any really bad effects.

I'm a bit too under the weather to go through the bill with a fine-tooth comb right now, but...even if I was sober, I'd still be confused.

What amendments could address such a thing? there will never be a living baby born from an etopic pregnancy. Never. Ever. It's impossible. Re-planting the fetal cells into the uterus would only mean invasive surgery to re-locate a zygote into a uterus where it will die/miscarry ANYWAY.

There's no amendment that can make an exception for that law. Even the law of re-implanting etopic pregnancies doesn't make sense to begin with. Since it can't be done.

There is two choices with an etopic pregnancy:

-Leave the pregnancy to continue in the fallopian tubes, where it cannot survive, and then goes on to kill the mother as it "grow" and obstructs.
-Surgery to remove the etopic pregnancy/fetus/zygote and possibly the affected fallopian tube.

In the second choice; a baby will not develop, but the mother lives, and possibly goes without a fallopian tube, increasing her chances of fertility problems, and if the tube is not removed, could result in another etopic situation next pregnancy anyway.

There is no possible amendment for that. In all conclusions, there will always be a death. Either the halted development of a baby, or of the mother, or both. Obviously, the death of the mother, would also result in the death of the fetus as well. I mean, re-implanting would be USELESS if only to make a profit, and to make others who are not having to experience the loss feel a little less "better" yet no life (that they deem to be "innocent" is saved. Either the baby-to-be dies, or both die. There is no in-between or happy ending.

You're very welcome. I hope anything I said might help you find some solace some way. I know you're posting under anonymous, but please feel free to send me a shout if you ever need to talk or something. I believe there are options for private messages now, which the old version of this site (as far as I knew/remember) didn't have.

Think of me as a soundboard if you like. You can vent, or share frustrations and have an outlet, or if you're just needing a pick me up, I can badly attempt to share my sense of humor. :)

If not, that's okay too! Just remember that there is nothing bad about being the opposite or "too much". Unless of course, you may be putting yourself in danger of letting yourself get harmed by being "too nice" to people who don't deserve it. Then be careful and always remember that it is okay to self-care!

I have personal beef with Ohio...and this really doesn't shock me. Ohio is basically Floridaman on a budget.

But as a ****rape survivor, who became pregnant and chose to KEEP by my own volition, they can just all jump into a pit of boiling lava. I'm still Pro-choice.

And the whole etopic pregnancies thing? do they even know or understand what that is? When I had early-on pregnancy complications, I was tested for an etopic pregnancy, I didn't have a clue what that was at the time, and when they explained it to me, I lost my damn mind when they told me that it was either I needed surgical means to end the pregnancy (and possibly lose a tube) or I was going to die, the baby was going to die...there was not many options. Re-planted? You can't replant a pregnancy into the uterus when it's already attached to the freaking fallopian tube. What sort of medical professionals did they even consult with that???

Thankfully, my pregnancy wasn't etopic, but sadly, I had a nasty accident when I was 20 weeks along and miscarried. But while the concerns where there, I knew enough to know that if it was etopic...there was going to be a death no matter what choice was made.

If they try to "replant" etopic pregnancies, there's a number of things that are going to happen.

Complications for the mother
A miscarriage because the fetus will NOT reattach to the uterus wall unless it's sewn on...and that's stupidly not going to work with the fetus developing further anyway.
Etopic pregnancies are *******fucking heart-breaking for parents. Emotionally, physically, and psychologically. I've met many grieving mothers of etopics and it's even more soul-crushing when they are having fertility issues and were trying to begin with. Can you imagine the kind of hell an Ohio couple would be in who have been trying for 5-7 years, only to be told that they're pregnant, but it's etopic...and then have this stupid law where they have to have surgery, to have the fetus die whether it's moved or not? I mean, geez...

I cannot think of a bill in recent times that has been so stupid... and Australia has some pretty stupid bills of our own.

You're absolutely right. And while damage was done, there is a lesson to be learned from it, even though it may not seem like it; in an open letter my brother wrote to our father a few months ago, he said it brilliantly (our father walked out on him when my brother was only a baby) that even though our father was never around to teach him anything, my brother learned how NOT to be like him. And he isn't in the slightest. He's a brilliant father who loves his daughter to pieces, and grieves for his son that passed away a few years ago.

My point here being; he did teach you something, though it wasn't something he intended to teach. You know compassion, empathy, care and morality. Those are some really important lessons. But I hope one day, you will also realize he taught you that you are WORTHY of care, and of yourself. All because he failed to give it to you when you deserved it.

No. That would not have been better, because you recognize that his behavior was cruel and wrong, and you didn't deserve it. There is no reason to punish yourself for something he did.

I get it. I understand. Hell, the things I could tell you from my own childhood myself. I may not know of the insanity from YOUR perspective. But I know how much it hurts and how much of a weight it is on someone's soul.

I should also note, it took me far too long to realize that at the time, a person I thought I could confide it, had me blindsided and used every. single. tactic that my father did to keep me from getting around from THEIR toxic self. It took more than one close-to-me person to point it out that the the person was actually using the issues with my father, as a way to emotionally control me in the same way. Threatening to cut themselves, using passive aggressive moods and sometimes silent treatment in order to "punish" me...for really stupid things. Like needing to go see a doctor, or needing to sleep after being awake for 48 hours.

I recognize those signs a lot better now, but my trust has been destroyed and there are very very few people I trust at all now. When it used to be that I just didn't trust myself and actually believed I was the one who was always wrong.