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My car has a leak inside.



It must have had 2, I have fixed the worst one, but upon commencing putting it back together today I discovered there is a patch of the insulating carpet in the passenger (left) footwell that is still very wet.

It's a 2012 ford focus CDTi mark 3

I can see no source of the leak.
I've had the car in pieces.
Thought I'd solved it when I discovered the source of a leak at the back.
That solved the worst of it but there's clearly still water getting in somewhere else.

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My car has a leak inside.¬ ¬ It must have had 2, I have fixed the worst one, but upon commencing putting it back together today I discovered there is a patch of the insulating carpet in the passenger (left) footwell that is still very wet.¬ ¬ It's a 2012 ford focus CDTi mark 3 ¬ ¬ I can see no source of the leak.¬ I've had the car in pieces.¬ Thought I'd solved it when I discovered the source of a leak at the back.¬ That solved the worst of it but there's clearly still water getting in somewhere else.

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Have you taken it in to a shop?

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No.

My last, and next wages are very low, gonna be hard enough just paying bills.

I don't want to pay for something I can do myself.

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That's true, I know zero about cars or how to fix them so I'm usually reliant on others for that kind of help...do you have any friends who might have had a similar problem with their cars and know what could help?

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Out of curiosity where is the water getting in your car?

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Nope.
And I'm in a mark 3 focus owners group on th and can't get a definitive answer there.

I'm not normally bad at fixing things, it's the finding of the problem I'm struggling with.

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twosocks wrote:
Out of curiosity where is the water getting in your car?

That, my friend, is what I don't know!

I need to find where it's getting in to be able to fix it.

The main leak was a vent behind the rear bumper.

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Bumper?
Who needs one of those!?? Remove and ditch it completely. Then just Bondo the crap out of it.

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Edit: Heater core. Under the dash - usually behind the glovebox.

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I deduce that your heater core is leaking.

Often you will not see any drips--but the carpet is continually wet. And if the wetness has the smell of antifreeze, it's a dead giveaway that the heater core is leaking.

On many cars it's an eight-hour repari job!

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If the heater core is the same thing as heater matrix, I doubt I can do that myself.

I've already removed the globe box, side panels and the left side of centre console and panels, still no access to it or evidence it's that.

To get at it the entire dash, steering wheel and column, and airbags need removed.

It doesn't smell of antifreeze.

The coolant was slightly down 2 months ago, I topped it up, it remained ok, although will check that again in a few mins when I go out.

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Coolant level is fine

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Found this today Joe.....


UnderhoodService Babcox

Climate Control
SEP 29, 2016 5:07 PM
Ford Focus: Wet Carpet On Passenger Side
Models
2012-2013 Focus

ISSUE
Some 2012-2013 Focus vehicles built on or before 11/12/2012 may exhibit wet carpet on the passenger-side front foot well. This is likely due to leaking climate control condensate.

ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

Figure 1
Figure 1
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Start the engine and operate air conditioning in the fresh air mode, temperature control on full cold and the fan speed control on high. Allow the vehicle to operate in this manner for a period of time long enough for condensation to develop, considering ambient weather conditions.

2. Check the lower section of the heater core and evaporator core housing inside the vehicle for damage.

3. Is the heater core and evaporator core housing damaged?

a. Yes – this procedure does not apply.

b. No – proceed to Step 4.

4. Check if the heater core and evaporator core housing drain tube are present and fully seated in position.

5. Is the heater core and evaporator core housing drain tube present and fully seated in position, and does condensate flow freely from the drain tube?

a. Yes – proceed to Step 6.

b. No – this procedure does not apply.

Figure 2
Figure 2
6. Remove the five (5) T20 Torx screws to evaporator core access cover. (Figure 1)

7. Place the rope seal across the bottom of the evaporator core access cover groove, and starting in the middle, push rope seal into the groove. (Figure 2)

a. Stretching the rope seal may result in a water and/or air leak.

8. Wrap the rope seal around the corners and continue working into the groove.

9. Install the evaporator core access cover.

Courtesy of ALLDATA


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Often driven by an “out of sight, out of mind” mentality, most consumers don’t think about purchasing cabin air filters. That’s why educating consumers on the benefits of cabin air filters can be a shop’s best sales pitch for selling these maintenance add-ons.

A recent Maintenance Matters survey found that 49% of cabin air filters are sold during the spring. Increasing pollen counts, coupled with the benefits cabin air filters provide for allergy suffers, makes for a fairly easy sell. One could argue, however, that winter is the more important season to replace a vehicle’s filter.

There are three major reasons to replace a cabin air filter in the winter:

1. Increased Particulate Emissions

As cars idle on cold winter mornings, the exhaust can pump out damaging emissions that are harmful to drivers’ respiratory systems. The most damaging component of tailpipe emissions are particulates. Vehicle emission particulates range in size from 2 microns to 10 microns in diameter, and can aggravate the lungs when inhaled.

A vehicle’s tailpipe particulate emissions are higher when the engine is cold. Scientists found particulate emissions increased exponentially as the temperature decreased, according to a Kansas City Light-Duty Vehicle Emissions Study. In fact, this study found that particulate emissions doubled for every 20° F temperature drop.

The one thing that can stop exhaust particulates from reaching vehicle occupants is a cabin air filter. Some cabin air filters can even stop particulates that are as small as 1 micron in diameter.

2. Defroster Performance

In the winter, the benefits of a clean air filter are easy to see. Clogged cabin air filters can restrict defroster performance, making it harder to see out the windshield. If a cabin air filter is clogged, it will create a restriction that will decrease the amount of hot air the blower can deliver to the windshield, which diminishes visibility and adds time that it takes to defrost the window.

3. Summer and Fall Can Be Brutal on Cabin Air Filters

Following months of battling heavy pollen, dust, leaves, bugs and other debris, winter is the perfect time to give a customer’s cabin air filter a fresh start.

This debris piles up, restricting airflow through the filter and causing heating and cooling problems. With no leaves, pollen or bugs to contend with over the next few months, replacing the cabin air filter in the winter will address heating problems immediately and help prevent cooling problems from cropping up once spring rolls around.

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nobody has that many problems in one day

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soco wrote:
Found this today Joe.....


UnderhoodService Babcox

Climate Control
SEP 29, 2016 5:07 PM
Ford Focus: Wet Carpet On Passenger Side
Models
2012-2013 Focus

ISSUE
Some 2012-2013 Focus vehicles built on or before 11/12/2012 may exhibit wet carpet on the passenger-side front foot well. This is likely due to leaking climate control condensate.

ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

Figure 1
Figure 1
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Start the engine and operate air conditioning in the fresh air mode, temperature control on full cold and the fan speed control on high. Allow the vehicle to operate in this manner for a period of time long enough for condensation to develop, considering ambient weather conditions.

2. Check the lower section of the heater core and evaporator core housing inside the vehicle for damage.

3. Is the heater core and evaporator core housing damaged?

a. Yes – this procedure does not apply.

b. No – proceed to Step 4.

4. Check if the heater core and evaporator core housing drain tube are present and fully seated in position.

5. Is the heater core and evaporator core housing drain tube present and fully seated in position, and does condensate flow freely from the drain tube?

a. Yes – proceed to Step 6.

b. No – this procedure does not apply.

Figure 2
Figure 2
6. Remove the five (5) T20 Torx screws to evaporator core access cover. (Figure 1)

7. Place the rope seal across the bottom of the evaporator core access cover groove, and starting in the middle, push rope seal into the groove. (Figure 2)

a. Stretching the rope seal may result in a water and/or air leak.

8. Wrap the rope seal around the corners and continue working into the groove.

9. Install the evaporator core access cover.

Courtesy of ALLDATA


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Climate Control/Cabin Air Filter
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3 Reasons To Replace Cabin Air Filters In Winter
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Underhood Service Staff Writers,


VIEW BIO

Often driven by an “out of sight, out of mind” mentality, most consumers don’t think about purchasing cabin air filters. That’s why educating consumers on the benefits of cabin air filters can be a shop’s best sales pitch for selling these maintenance add-ons.

A recent Maintenance Matters survey found that 49% of cabin air filters are sold during the spring. Increasing pollen counts, coupled with the benefits cabin air filters provide for allergy suffers, makes for a fairly easy sell. One could argue, however, that winter is the more important season to replace a vehicle’s filter.

There are three major reasons to replace a cabin air filter in the winter:

1. Increased Particulate Emissions

As cars idle on cold winter mornings, the exhaust can pump out damaging emissions that are harmful to drivers’ respiratory systems. The most damaging component of tailpipe emissions are particulates. Vehicle emission particulates range in size from 2 microns to 10 microns in diameter, and can aggravate the lungs when inhaled.

A vehicle’s tailpipe particulate emissions are higher when the engine is cold. Scientists found particulate emissions increased exponentially as the temperature decreased, according to a Kansas City Light-Duty Vehicle Emissions Study. In fact, this study found that particulate emissions doubled for every 20° F temperature drop.

The one thing that can stop exhaust particulates from reaching vehicle occupants is a cabin air filter. Some cabin air filters can even stop particulates that are as small as 1 micron in diameter.

2. Defroster Performance

In the winter, the benefits of a clean air filter are easy to see. Clogged cabin air filters can restrict defroster performance, making it harder to see out the windshield. If a cabin air filter is clogged, it will create a restriction that will decrease the amount of hot air the blower can deliver to the windshield, which diminishes visibility and adds time that it takes to defrost the window.

3. Summer and Fall Can Be Brutal on Cabin Air Filters

Following months of battling heavy pollen, dust, leaves, bugs and other debris, winter is the perfect time to give a customer’s cabin air filter a fresh start.

This debris piles up, restricting airflow through the filter and causing heating and cooling problems. With no leaves, pollen or bugs to contend with over the next few months, replacing the cabin air filter in the winter will address heating problems immediately and help prevent cooling problems from cropping up once spring rolls around.

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To access the heater core / matrix the entire dash, centre console, steering wheel, airbags and basically the entire front inside of the car.
I've already removed the glove box and centre panels, had the carpet and seats out, still can't get at heater matrix.

The air con still works just fine, if have thought it wouldn't work if that was the issue.

I don't think I can do such a big job on my own, I don't have a garage so am doing all this on the.drive any time it's not raining, and honestly I'd be scared to be messing around with the airbags.

Cabin air filter was checked early doors.
It was fine but I've replaced it anyway since I had easy access while the glove box is out and it's normally a pain in the arse to do.

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NaCtHoMaN wrote:
nobody has that many problems in one day

Care to live my life for a while....

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An alternate explanation could be that you have an incontinent passenger . . .

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Sherlock wrote:
An alternate explanation could be that you have an incontinent passenger . . .

I have had a passenger in my car maybe 5 times in the last year.
I'm extremely antisocial.

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J.N-Bucking wrote:

Sherlock wrote:
An alternate explanation could be that you have an incontinent passenger . . .

I have had a passenger in my car maybe 5 times in the last year.
I'm extremely antisocial.

I think you just haven't met the right people, and have been filtering out the bad ones.

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