When Sherlock Left the High Road .
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That's a firearms forum by that name, to be exact. It was about a decade ago, and on this shooter's forum I wrote the following in response to a thread about interactions with the police: "In some communities, the police are more of a threat to the citizenry than the so-called criminal element."
One of the moderators went absolutely nuts, and gave me a "warning that "cop-bashing" would not be allowed on the forum. Now, I did not think that was cop-bashing--then or now. If I had said, "In ALL communities, the police are more of a threat . . . " then that could have conceivably been construed as cop-bashing.
I told the moderator that he could take his "jump to wild conclusions mentality" and go straight to hell. And I never posted again.
Just to make sure I never used that forum again--and truthfully forgetting which forum it was--I sent out an inquiry to whoever is the present moderator. Sure enough, it was thehighroad.org. The mod replied:
"Reading the communications of the incident you're talking about, it looks like you went a little overboard after receiving a warning only that "cop bashing" is not allowed in a particular forum on the board. While you did state that you were not anti-cop in your post, there was enough in the post to suggest that you might be. Since we don't know you from Adam, we have to assume that a warning is in order."
I thanked him for researching the decade-old post, but also told him, "Anyway, I've never been addressed like that on any other forum, and I don't think I'll risk having my comments taken out of context in any further postings on the High Road.
I really do appreciate your taking the time out to research the post and to reply, but it sounds like you also made an inference that did not relate to the true nature of my post.
I absolutely agree that profanity, hate speech, and general 'bashing' have no place on any forum--but to have a mod just go nuts for an innocent posting goes beyond the pale.
Thank you again--but you can delete my account."
For the record, I admire those police officers who lay their lives on the line, and who really work to make our communities safer and more secure.
My problem is with police like Michael Slager, who shot and killed Walter Scott as he ran away--shooting him four or five times in the back. And with police like the one in Minneapolis who shot a woman in her pajamas as she approached their police cruiser. And with the ones who leave their morals and consciences in their lockers and go out to fill their ticket quotas.
And, with the ones who are summoned because a family member is suicidal, and end up killing that family member when it absolutely could have been avoided.
My own encounters with police have been mostly positive. I treated them with respect, and was treated respectfully in return. I've known some police officers personally--and know some to be scalawags and others to be very upright people, just like everybody else.
So . . . what do the rest of you think? Do you have stories of good encounters and stories of bad encounters? How do the police stack up in your own community?
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When Sherlock Left the High Road . . . ¬
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That's a firearms forum by that name, to be exact. It was about a decade ago, and on this shooter's forum I wrote the following in response to a thread about interactions with the police: "In some communities, the police are more of a threat to the citizenry than the so-called criminal element."¬
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One of the moderators went absolutely nuts, and gave me a "warning that "cop-bashing" would not be allowed on the forum. Now, I did not think that was cop-bashing--then or now. If I had said, "In ALL communities, the police are more of a threat . . . " then that could have conceivably been construed as cop-bashing. ¬
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I told the moderator that he could take his "jump to wild conclusions mentality" and go straight to hell. And I never posted again.¬
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Just to make sure I never used that forum again--and truthfully forgetting which forum it was--I sent out an inquiry to whoever is the present moderator. Sure enough, it was thehighroad.org, to be exact. It was about a decade ago, and on this shooter's forum I wrote the following in response to a thread about interactions with the police: "In some communities, the police are more of a threat to the citizenry than the so-called criminal element."¬
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One of the moderators went absolutely nuts, and gave me a "warning that "cop-bashing" would not be allowed on the forum. Now, I did not think that was cop-bashing--then or now. If I had said, "In ALL communities, the police are more of a threat . . . " then that could have conceivably been construed as cop-bashing. ¬
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I told the moderator that he could take his "jump to wild conclusions mentality" and go straight to hell. And I never posted again.¬
¬
Just to make sure I never used that forum again--and truthfully forgetting which forum it was--I sent out an inquiry to whoever is the present moderator. Sure enough, it was thehighroad.org. The mod replied:¬
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"Reading the communications of the incident you're talking about, it looks like you went a little overboard after receiving a warning only that "cop bashing" is not allowed in a particular forum on the board. While you did state that you were not anti-cop in your post, there was enough in the post to suggest that you might be. Since we don't know you from Adam, we have to assume that a warning is in order."¬
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I thanked him for researching the decade-old post, but also told him, "Anyway, I've never been addressed like that on any other forum, and I don't think I'll risk having my comments taken out of context in any further postings on the High Road.¬
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I really do appreciate your taking the time out to research the post and to reply, but it sounds like you also made an inference that did not relate to the true nature of my post. ¬
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I absolutely agree that profanity, hate speech, and general 'bashing' have no place on any forum--but to have a mod just go nuts for an innocent posting goes beyond the pale.¬
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Thank you again--but you can delete my account."¬
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For the record, I admire those police officers who lay their lives on the line, and who really work to make our communities safer and more secure.¬
¬
My problem is with police like Michael Slager, who shot and killed Walter Scott as he ran away--shooting him four or five times in the back. And with police like the one in Minneapolis who shot a woman in her pajamas as she approached their police cruiser. And with the ones who leave their morals and consciences in their lockers and go out to fill their ticket quotas. ¬
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And, with the ones who are summoned because a family member is suicidal, and end up killing that family member when it absolutely could have been avoided.¬
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My own encounters with police have been mostly positive. I treated them with respect, and was treated respectfully in return. I've known some police officers personally--and know some to be scalawags and others to be very upright people, just like everybody else.¬
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So . . . what do the rest of you think? Do you have stories of good encounters and stories of bad encounters? How do the police stack up in your own community?
It's not a Barney Fife life anymore...
The local town cops aren't local anymore.
They're rotated to other communities, just as the ones here are "imported."
Why, you ask?
To serve without discretion.
You don't get off easy for stupid things because your drinking buddy for 20 years isn't the one pulling you over.
Here's your $fine.$
Big-Al-One wrote:
The local town cops aren't local anymore.They're rotated to other communities, just as the ones here are "imported."
Why, you ask?
To serve without discretion.
Sounds like "community policing" in Alaska just went down in flames!
I also believe that laws should be made for people, and not people made for laws. There's over 20,000 laws on the books--and just about every one of us is violating several of them every day, without even knowing it.
The stone-faced cop who just hands out tickets will never be considered as a "friend" to the community.
Sherlock wrote:
Sounds like "community policing" in Alaska just went down in flames!The stone-faced cop who just hands out tickets will never be considered as a "friend" to the community.
I live just a few miles away from the primary traffic hub of the entire state. Basically, there is no place you can get to in the state without crossing my path. Comming in? I'll see you just the same as you are leaving....and so will the cops.
We are a maritime martial law state and the only interests the police serve is the prison system and affiliated corporations of energy.
We are strawmen and the corporate state isn't shy nor does it care if anyone knows of it's nefarious doings - but it's the same story in all 1st & 2nd corporate world countries.
As for me, Sherlock, you never have to provide a disclaimer as to your thoughts about the authorities.
The hypersensitive feelings of social justice snowflakes always abound - you can explain it like you would to a child but it won't make a damm. I'm generally unapologetic anymore.
Big-Al-One wrote:
As for me, Sherlock, you never have to provide a disclaimer as to your thoughts about the authorities.
The hypersensitive feelings of social justice snowflakes always abound - you can explain it like you would to a child but it won't make a damm. I'm generally unapologetic anymore.
i need to learn how to do this too.
Help me with: We have another hurricane coming this way.
Soco wrote:
i need to learn how to do this too.
There's a new realm of persons who just think that when a person says something frankly, harsh, or rough that suddenly, it means you must have no moral compass.
People get too caught up in words rather than seeing WHAT the person is trying to communicate.
I did not think my original post was bashing all police. There was a mod who was evidently a cop or ex-cop who had very thin skin. He did not bring up anything to counter my statement but was trying to use his mod power to silence anyone with a different opinion.
How do we make things better if we cannot talk about them?
If I were a cop, I would want to operate in an atmosphere where I could report fellow cops who were giving our profession a bad name.
That mod guy would want to throw up that "blue wall of silence." And things would stay the same.
When you have people out there who are issued guns and given the power to take away others' freedom and even ruin their lives, they need to be the kind of people who do not abuse power.
In too many police departments, the police have not been held accountable for abuses of power. They gave gained absolute power as a result--and we know absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And all civil servants need to remember that they are just that--the servants of the public, and not their overseers or masters.
Kind of like this:
Max wrote:
If I understand the post correctly the mod from the group seeked out Sherlock.
Actually, I sought out the forum to make sure it wasn't the one with which I'd had the disagreement with the mod a decade earlier.
Looks like nothing on it has changed--still the same narrow-mindedness displayed as before.
There was a similar problem on AOL--remember that?--some 20 years ago. There was a fellow who was always removing posts. He said that his idea of a forum was like everyone sitting around the table at Thanksgiving, all wearing suits or evening gowns and engaging in the most civil and erudite of conversations.
I thought that was a bit stuffy. Civil conversation is great--stuffiness not so much.
And I think that while a mod should remove obviously objectionable posts, if there is some element of doubt then the OP should be invited to clarify.
I still maintain that in SOME communities, the police is more of a threat to the ordinary citizenry than the so-called criminal element. In Ferguson, MO, it was found that the police were preying upon minority drivers quite a bit--and the fines were so excessive that many working people could not pay them. Then those people were jailed for failure to pay--and that became a debtors' prison, something which is specifically prohibited by the US Constitution. The minority community in Ferguson did not view the police as their friends or allies, but as pirates who might as well have had the Jolly Roger painted on their police cruisers as the city seal.
Now, the guy who attacked the cop in Ferguson was asking to get shot--but the police had soured relations long before that.
Further investigation has revealed that, at the time they had a fly-off-the-handle mod, "thehighroad.org" was undergoing an ownership dispute. The owner claims that his chief tech guy locked him out of the site; the chief tech guy claims that they were joint owners, and that he did it to stop monkey business.
I think I'm with the "first guy," but I don't have any proof. Why? Because it looks like the bad guys won in this case. There was apparently a mass exodus from the web site's forum.
There's almost always an underlying issue when things don't seem quite right!
Sherlock wrote:
- Because it looks like the bad guys won in this case. There was apparently a mass exodus from the web site's forum.There's almost always an underlying issue when things don't seem quite right!
Oddly, this almost seems to be the same case with another site I was familiar with - but I digress.
It is wise to keep a keen eye on those in charge of anything. More often then not, full advantage is taken.
Did you agree to the full rule of the government you pay to support? Do you know what little rights you actually have?
Remember,remember the 5th of November!
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