sometimes everything seems bleak...
dont really know what else to say. intrusive thoughts are bad. i feel numb and crappy. im great at putting on a front so no one else sees but now im sat at home, alone, being ignored by my cat and wondering why i bother. so i sit here far too much in my own head, with thoughts and feelings swirling around leading to the downwards spiral which consists of mostly blackness, tears and wanting to polish off the bottle of bacardi in my kitchen.
then the reasoning side of me tells me its not that bad, im doing well and outwardly have a good life and theres no reason to feel this way. i was doing ok and now im doing worse and that fine. i understand psychologically and from experience why i feel this way, i have coping mechanisms that should stop it. maybe the over rationalisation is making it worse? maybe its making it better? who knows.
my first appointment went well i suppose, the woman seemed nice and we talked about various things but i didnt let my guard down. i'll try harder to next time i see her. - sounds like im writing to my diary!
mental health sucks balls when its down the drain...
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ProffVampy wrote:
mental health sucks balls when its down the drain...
Can't agree more with that.
At times like these, I find it best to just keep on keeping on. Realize it's just a mental injury that just happens. Like spraining your ankle while down the stairs. Recognize it, but don't let it overcome you. Just take a break and do something fun. Play some games, read a fun book, go for a walk through the mall. Splurge and get something nice that you see. Just have a good day.
In my experience, cannot ever totally prevent these things. We're happy and have a good life because there have been times where we've struggled. It's the natural wave. Sometimes you'll peak and be great and sometimes you'll be stuck in a valley- but you can and you will get past it.
it annoys me cause i know all that :/ and i do things to try and cheer myself up but some days it doesnt matter what i do it just doesnt go away. i know itll pass soon and ill be ok just wish it didnt happen or atleast not as often. i really thought id got past this stage in my life but at the same time i dont beleive mental health issues can ever be "cured" in the same way a physical wound often leaves a scar.
I completely agree. Most days I feel "cured" and then all of a sudden the darkness is back. But the difference now is that we know the darkness is temporary. It's okay to feel sad. Recognize and respect the feeling, then let it go. Do what you can to get rid of it, but know that it will pass. Now that we've come this far we already know we have the power to get beyond it, but that doesn't mean that we'll never roll our ankle during the race.
That's why I suggest something like games or reading. Something you can do passively that will just take your mind somewhere else while it heals.
ive rcently been getting into a good book series. its nice to actually read for pleasure instead of just for uni assignments again. think spending so much time on my own isnt helping either but then i dont really have anyone to see. my doors always open to friends and i invite them over but then it feels like they just come for food and leave. and since ive had to end my ******stoner ways my circle has definitely shrunk which is annoying because i thought we were closer than that :/
we all run into walls in our life, walls made of all kinds of things to set us back, sometimes being a human being sucks but what can ya do, if you get knocked down, get back up, if the walls to tall, find a ladder, dig under it. ugh, im constantly getting knocked down by life, dirt in my face. but you gotta just grin and bear it sometimes, stoicism can be a great tool. hope you feel better, hang in there. ps, ive been reading a lot more lately also... it helps
Oooh what book series? I could use a good fiction book, I'm sick of my study books too atm.
I think sometimes you just need to let it out, instead of trying to contain it. Watch a sad movie, sing sad songs, cry into a pillow.
I think thinking about why you feel that way does help, even if you think there's no reason, there always is. Then you can try to fix it or at least understand it.
Nix wrote:
Oooh what book series? I could use a good fiction book, I'm sick of my study books too atm.
the Farseer trilogy by Robin Hobb. Theres load of booked based in that world but thats the start of it. theyre really good :)
reading does help a bit, while im reading and emmersed in that world its great and everything forgotten but i cant stay there forever which is the frustration.
ive figured out some reasons why im feeling the way i am and annoyingly theyre not really things i can change. for exmaple one is just feeling lonely and not liking being single, i miss having someone here to care for me and for me to care for. but im not running into another relationship for the sake of it because as shown last time that doesnt actually help anything.
since i have stopped smoking le herbs its bringing back all my night terrors. i havent had them since before i started smoking really, the odd one but id forgotten how much it helped and assumed id also just grown out of it. haddnt even occured to me they might come back until they started happening again and now im waking up multipul times a night and always tired. and now also my thought processes arent being slowed down by anything so when a bad thought takes hold im dragged down in minutes, but the same with good thgouths and i build myself up too quickly and they often get dashed. i feel less incontrol of myself and my thoughts and as much as im trying to keep myself in a more centered place its just not happening.
i think my next session with the mental health team could be an interesting one.
When I first read your post you said "things are now worse and that's fine"
I think that's where your going wrong. I get that you know your own coping mechanisms,however you are stopping yourself from reaching out to others due to this.
You are not fine, Vampy you are far from it. We all get lonely from time to time and that's nothing to be embarrassed about.
Sounds like you could do with a new circle of friends to. Friends are supposed to lift your spirits not put you down.
Reading can also be rewarding but there's only so much before your mind starts to wonder.
What was the cause behind your night terrors?
i have been reaching out. im seeing one of my unis mental health team and have another appointment with them next monday. ill be telling her how much ive deteriorated over the past couple of weeks.
i know im not fine, i had a big breakdown earlier today when i found out i'd been reected from a grad scheme i had high hopes for. was the straw that broke the camels back and it finally all came flooding out. one of my friends came round with chocolate to cheer me up.
i have about 3 different groups of friends which is good i suppose. one at uni one at work and one generally from the city i live in. the latter are the ones who no longer come round or see me because we apparently only had one thing in common.
and i dont know whats behind the night terrors. i used to have them as a kid and a teenager. the dissappated which after so long i thought had meant i just grew out of them. only having like one a month which is bareable and they were never as vivid. the past week has been awful and the only time ive slept through was at the weekend when i'd been out partying and drinking with my friends. i have some which are reoccuring but most are just one offs about different things. for example last night i had one about giving birth but it went wrong and the baby came out feet first through my belly button. it was like something out of alien or preditor.
My Son used to have night terrors which were pretty horrific to watch. I asked him if anything was bothering him at the time. I later found out he was getting bullied.
I know your not getting bullied physically but you sure are mentally. I think the baby dream could signify wanting to be in a loving relationship. Are you concerned about your weight?
It's good that you have "true friends" it shows what kind of person you are,it also means you will be able to reach them Day or night.
It's also good your having Therapy. How is it going so far?
Does she talk or just listen?
Breaking down is the best thing you could have done,it means you no longer barricade yourself which will let the light in. It's a good way at looking at things.
I've suffered myself through depression,I've seen how dark that tunnel gets. I also know when the mind decides to play games it really goes in for the kill and whatever we are told or think we believe.
Nine times out of ten our intrusive thoughts speak bs. * hugs you*
i was bullied in school, physically and mentally but i never let it bother me. i just ignored them and they stopped because it wasnt fun. i was just the weird one but i had my friends so it was ok.
and i do want to be in a loving relationship but i also dont want to be in one for the sake of it. not going to settle for someone just because theyre there.
only had one session so far. ive had CBT in the past so we talked about that, why i need it now and i gave her a general overview of the past year and everything thats led to it. she talked and listened. we talked about other random stuff and got very off topic but then brought it back to the main focus. didnt let my guard down fully as it was the first time i met her but next time ill be more open.
and the intrusive thoughts are definitely bs. the worst one is just the image of putting a steak knife through my wrist and cutting it like its a rack of ribs. something i know i wouldnt do, ive slef harmed in the past and it doesnt help or make me feel better. its not one that holds any meaning to me but its still there.
most of my friends are surprised im stuggling as ive always been the 'strong' one who helps them with their issues. its what im good at but im awful at following my own advice but im trying. hence i'm seeing someone.
the breakdown felt good releasing it all but its also made it all dawn on my a bit more. and its the last thing i need in my last year of uni! but ofcourse these things never come at convenient times. my mind is wonderfully dark which sometimes can be great but when it turns against me as you said the games it plays arent fun. im good at rebuttling all of the thoughts i have and rationalising but that doesnt make me feel any better about them as they are still there and still have their effect on me.
All this pressure your under with Uni stuff will accabate matters,but it's still better releasing those emotions instead of bottling them in. It should not matter when you broke down. The fact is you have. And now your friends know the real you and not the one you've been trying to hide all these years.
You are allowed to show weakness, Vampy you don't have to be strong all the time.
CBT is good when it comes to "categorising those intrusive thought"
When I had them I could not believe how ******fucked up my head was.
I'm the same when it comes to putting up the barriers and giving advice,being that shoulder etc.
One friend although she was very greatful at the help she received from me asked about me and what do I get by helping and being the strong one all the time. You could say it struck a chord. What was I actually getting from "being the strong one" everyone's problems on my tiny shoulders that's what,but I too went ahead shrugged it off then it all came and tumbled down on me.
Being strong gets you no where. Being honest and true to yourself well that opens all kinds of doors.
i wasnt specifically not trying to have one. i realised i haddnt and that i should but nothing had quite gotten me to that point if you know what i mean? i come from a traditional rather posh family so 'stiff upper lip' and all. ive usually been able to deal with my issues with the support of a friend or partner depending on the time. but i also know when i need more than that. which is why i went looking for help this time. though i do find it hard to cry infront of people, just dont find it comfortable, plus i look like a sunburnt panda from the blotching! its bad.
CBT for me just helped apply my already overly logical mindset to the issue at hand which was helpful. and also gave me the urge to study psychology.
i suppose ive always felt better when i help someone else with their issues and it gives me the confidence to deal with my own.
and god that was back when i was at school so nearly 10years ago! it was from the bullying and general teenage issues. also when my dog died, she was very much my baby and it happened very suddenly and really rocked the boat. i onyl did it because its what people seemed to do - it was glamourised. it didnt help. only did it the one time and luckily i didnt do it well enough to leave any scars. after that i just burried everything until it came out about 4years ago when i had my first therapy.
So from peer pressure or trying to fit in. Yeah been there I've not self harmed though.
Glad you put a stop to it before it took hold.
Our family background does have a certain impact with our behaviour.
I never had "stiff upper lip"
That kind of life style can put restrictions/standards to abide by. It explains why you keep things hidden.
I'm the same when it comes to crying. I'm so hard when it comes to emotions. It takes a death to make me cry,seriously.
Dont get me wrong it is great helping people (else what's the point of this site) just don't take on to much or eventually you will get bogged down by it. 😊
from neither really. i was just always the weird one. i went to a very posh school but wasnt as rich as the rich kids but not as poor as the ones on scholarships. my parents are much older than most so they didnt work which was weird to everyone. just never fit into any of the boxes which are much worse at a private school than they are in a state school. ive since been to both.
my background definitely has had an impact on the way i am though i have broken away from it more so now that ive moved out and experienced different things. at university everyones on an even playing field and it doest matter where you come from.
and yes ive had many pets since! i have a dog whos at my parents house and i have a cat that lives with me. my lil mummas boy..aptly named Dorian after Dorian Gray (book/film) didnt realise how fitting the name was when i first got him. looks like an angel but really hes the devil in disguise. but hes my lil munchkin and i love him :) makes living alone alot less lonely.
Aww Pets are wonderful.Some members on the original help was under the impression I didn't like pets which couldn't be further from the truth. I love all animals! Doggies being my absolute favourite though.😉
Kittens and *******pussies are adorable to but I don't fancy claw marks in my furniture. Lol.
Dorian is quite a catch!
Pets sure do give you a lot of comfort and love and the welcome you receive omg I've only been out for 10 min haha.
I have a white bundle of fair,well, he's actually been shaven down at the mo so he looks more like a puppy now.
pets are great, i dont know what id do without them! they make everything seem better :)
well i had a good night out partying last night. drunk me can apparnelty do the splits! but i think i wouldve killed someone to be able to have a cuddle last night. even if it was ust the corpse xD todays not been good, got my assignments back and although i didnt do badly they werent the grades i wanted or need. i now only have one more semesters worth of assignments left to build up the grades i need to get a 1st in my degree. which is i dont get its going to be really hard to get a decent job in the field im headed towards. so thats bummed me out massively. though i was somewhat productive, had a good tutorial and another meeting. booked my car in for its service and mot.
went through the workbook i was given by the therapist so thats done and ready for monday. though i read through it and i know everything its telling me because im litterally studying it and how to help other people with the issues. so i suppose its not sinking in as much but im trying to go at it with a really open mind.
Life is a struggle. We live in a society, but there is destructive competition within that society. You also eventually realize that you are mortal. All of these thoughts come crashing down on you. Especially at night.
Solution: you have to care, but not care. You assess what your contributions may be--and then you say "F--- it" You are not singlehandedly going to save the world. You may win 10 Nobel prizes, but you are not going to save the world.
"God," I will say, "I think I can do this much, but You must do the rest."
You do not try to take on God's role. You can't do more than you can do.
Once you decide that you are not Atlas, you can let God hold up the world instead.
So now you concentrate on that first priority, which is survival. Then you aspire to higher things.
But you accept that you are not irreplaceable, that the world will not stop if you do not get straight As or that promotion.
All is vanity, in any event.
Unburdened by unreasonable expectations, you are now free to achieve all you are capable of achieving--and even more, with a little help from God and your friends.
And always remember--do not judge yourself by the standards of this world. Human standards are deeply flawed and even corrupted. We honour those who do not deserve it, and do not honour the most worthy.
Survival is a priority. Yet the most important things are to give and receive love.
If you can do that, the standards of this world fall away . . . and you can see the skyline of heaven.
I am not a beleiver but ill take the jist of what you're saying instead. and i understand it, i am harsh on myself and set myself high standards because the things i want to do need me to achieve well. which in itself is a frustrating cycle.
ProffVampy wrote:
I am not a beleiver but ill take the jist of what you're saying instead. and i understand it, i am harsh on myself and set myself high standards because the things i want to do need me to achieve well. which in itself is a frustrating cycle.
I'm the same, my therapist told me that 80% is good enough and I'm sort of coming to terms with that.
Nix wrote:
ProffVampy wrote:
I am not a beleiver but ill take the jist of what you're saying instead. and i understand it, i am harsh on myself and set myself high standards because the things i want to do need me to achieve well. which in itself is a frustrating cycle.I'm the same, my therapist told me that 80% is good enough and I'm sort of coming to terms with that.
i would say an average of 80% yes, give more to some things than others
80 percent of some things:)
I've met a specialist in a new field that has me impressed. Hospital discharge specialist. Their mandate is to research and or implement a safe healthy environment for the patient to be released into. Older people get the care and younger people get life skills and training. I was impressed with her measurable skills. She goes beyond the therapist.
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