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mishaps when under fire-stress-pressure

That's usually when the mishaps happen.

I remember a few years ago I was under a lot of stress and pressure at my job and my boss comes in and says "Hey, that thing you know how to do a lot better than I do, let's do it this really dumb, much less efficient way that is going to give you more work." I told her "That is not a good idea." She flipped out on me just for telling her the truth.....

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So the unemployment office sent more payments than they should which somehow created a debt to them.

My reply pending approval prolly cus curse words (◔_◔)

I just don't get it because there weren't any curses in my message, they were in anon's message, so why did I get dinged but anon didn't???

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So the unemployment office sent more payments than they should which somehow created a debt to them.

Anonymous wrote:

Let's see how the logic works when you put yourself in THEIR place. Please go agree to pay a man hundreds of dollars a week that you know is not working and is searching for a job while being quite aware a job offer is never guaranteed, with a set amount of weeks in mind. But accidentally pay the man a few weeks more than you intended.


When it all boils down to the basics, who would be the stupid ****fuck in this situation?

The answer is you sir.

No one in their right mind would say "Okay I'll go pay that jobless man hundreds of dollars a week."

MUCH LESS THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET MONEY FROM SOMEONE WHO ISN'T WORKING OR HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING WORK.

That's the logic. And it's sad I live in a world where they actually call that logic LOL

And no, to answer your question in half a decade I haven't been able to pay it back yet, it's been impossible I haven't had the means. Otherwise do you think I'd give up unemployment benefits for a less than a couple thousand dollars?

I'm cheap but I'm still reasonable.


So go ahead, and I mean all of my reply in all friendliness, but I want you to go pay a man without a job some money and see if you ever, ever, EVER get 1 single penny back. You'll never expect to be paid back over-payments from an unemployed person ever again I promise LOL

Would you do it?

F*CK NO YOU WOULDN'T.

Now the government has put this service in place for us anyway.
And it would be a great benefit if it didn't work out they can set you up to owe a balance effectively kicking you out of ever getting the benefit again.


No one can argue how unfair that is. I don't know their payment limits or what their policies are THAT'S THEIR JOB.


Ba1 is right I need to grab a lawyer.


But if I could AFFORD A LAWYER I'D PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF PAYING THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE BACK.

it's a catch 22 and i'm sick of this bullshit. It's hypocrisy and double talk turned into logic at its finest.

Cognitive dissonance much? LOL

I assumed this was something that happened recently where you likely still had at least most of the money in question to give back.

In any case, I agree if you are on unemployment it's not your job to make sure that you're not getting paid more than your supposed to.

I live in a state where, the way it works, is every week, after you initially register for the benefits, you "certify" that you are still unemployed so that you can keep getting the check.

My father, since COVID, had been on unemployment, and because he doesn't do computers too good it was my job to set it all up for him and to certify his benefits every week.

Recently he got a job though, but we weren't sure if it was a one-off off-the-books type thing or if he was gainfully employed again. Turned out he was "gainfully" employed. The problem is he never told me that, so I certified the benefits a week or two longer than I was supposed to.

The point being that I know honest mistakes happen on both sides, both on benefit-receiver side (in my case) and the gov't side (your case).


However, on the other hand...the gov't is NOT a person so I think the analogy you set up there doesn't quite match the situation. A bureaucratic organization is giving you money because of a legal mandate that requires them to when you fulfill certain requirements.

While giving you the money is supposedly the main part of the purpose of their existence, another part is preventing fraud. And the machinery used to accomplish those goals is likely often opposed to each other and leads to contradictory results, as you note here.

It's bureaucracy, and the bigger and more complicated a bureaucracy is, the more likely BS like what is happening to you will happen. You had the best intentions, and if it really was a one-on-one personal relationship, then yes, they would know that OH I accidentally gave you too much money, and that is money you've already used cause you got financial problems and have bigger things to worry about than what number of weeks you had been getting the money.

But it's more like you're dealing with a robot and the robot's automatic "you got money you weren't supposed to get" detector went off and now it's out for blood and you have to do something to satisfy that blood-hunger.

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Mission Statement:

DocteurRalph wrote:
You ever read Naked Lunch by William Burroughs? I just read it and it made me think of you. I believe you would enjoy it.

I watched the movie.

It is...um....something lol.

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So the unemployment office sent more payments than they should which somehow created a debt to them.

So this site seems to suggest that if you were ovsrpaid due to a clerical error and not because you gave false info when doing your unemployment form then you should be able to appeal and get some kind of waiver. Im not sure if this info is state-specific:


https://ptla.org/do-i-have-repay-unemployment-b...

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So the unemployment office sent more payments than they should which somehow created a debt to them.

It sounds like you got accidentally sent more money than you were supposed to get and so they want the difference.

I mean...sounds logical to me. Not sure if i'm understanding the issue here. Are you saying that you're not gainfully employed yet and can't pay it back yet? Then i sympathize. But otherwise it sounds like you're justifying yourself on the logic of no-backsies.

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Mission Statement:

NacthoMan wrote:
Solipsism

(/ˈsɒlɪpsɪzəm/ (About this soundlisten);

from Latin solus, meaning 'alone', and ipse, meaning 'self')[1] is the philosophical idea that only one's mind is sure to exist. As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.

this is false since im suggesting to you that your mind and existence only exist while im just a fragment of your mind

mmm.. nah .. purely nuts if you ask me.

Eternal recurrence is different.
Nietzsche says:


The greatest weight.-- What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence - even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!"
Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus?... Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life to crave nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal?


https://www.theperspectivesofnietzsche.com/niet...

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im not aways agreeable with this series but i do enjoy

NacthoMan wrote:

Lano wrote:

NacthoMan wrote:
relax spin was around before we knew it.

No, relaxing is what you can't do. Gotta be diligent and remind yourself o' that every moment as you listen to anything anyone says.

hmm now that you put it that way.. im with ya on that.

Including what i just said. Including what you just said.

Its spinception.

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im not aways agreeable with this series but i do enjoy

NacthoMan wrote:
relax spin was around before we knew it.

No, relaxing is what you can't do. Gotta be diligent and remind yourself o' that every moment as you listen to anything anyone says.

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looking around

I'm not sure if it's what you're talking about but the interface I used to register for a recent cat scan appointment didn't make any sense.

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