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WritetheHeroine wrote:

The most infuriating this about these nonsensical conspiracy-theories is that they don't even make sense. Where's the effort? Just a waste of viable energy.

For whatever reason, it's human nature to hear something on the news, or hear something that anyone who you don't particular mistrust said, and believe it.

The thing I don't get is why people believe randos on the internet over experts who pay their bills with the work they do.

I get mistrusting authority. But that oughta apply to ANY authority, including a dude on the internet who says he knows what he's talking about.

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5 G and AI is going full throttle despite the will of the people not wanting it.

Jetmoo wrote:
Report of Final Results Regarding Brain and Heart Tumors in Sprague-Dawley Rats Exposed From Prenatal Life Unitl Natural Death to Mobile Phone Radiofrequency Field Representative of a 1.8 GHz GSM Base Station Environmental Emission.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29530389

Brain Tumours: Rise in Glioblastoma Multiforme Incidence in England 1995-2015 Suggests an Adverse Environmental or Lifestyle Factor.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2018/7910...

The 2100 MHz Radiofrequency Radiation of a 3G-Mobile Phone and the DNA Oxidative Damage in Brain.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/p...

Prenatal Exposure to Extremely Low Frequency Magnetic Field and Its Impact on Fetal Growth.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30635061

The Effects of Radio Frequency Radiation on Mice Fetus Weight, Length and Tissues.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC61...

Exposure to Magnetic Field Non-Ionizing Radiation and the Risk of Miscarriage: A prospective Cohort Study.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-16623-8

Multiple Assessment Methods of Prenatal Exposure to Radio Frequency Radiation from Telecommunication in the Mothers and Children’s Environmental Health (MOCEH) Study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27869246

The Use of Signal-Transduction and Metabolic Pathways to Predict Human Disease Targets from Electric and Magnetic Fields Using in vitro Data in Human Cell Lines.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC50...

A Review on Electromagnetic Fields (EMFs) and the Reproductive System.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC50...

Genotoxicity Induced by Foetal and Infant Exposure to Magnetic Fields and Modulation of Ionising Radiation Effects.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.../journal.pone.0142259

Oxidative Stress of Brain and Liver is Increased by Wi-Fi (2.45 GHz) Exposure of Rats During Pregnancy and the Development of Newborns.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26520617

Neurodegenerative Changes and Apoptosis Induced by Intrauterine and Extrauterine Exposure of Radiofrequency Radiation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26520616

Maternal Exposure to a Continuous 900-MHz Electromagnetic Field Provokes Neuronal Loss and Pathological Changes in Cerebellum of 32-Day-Old Female Rat Offspring.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26391347

Different Periods of Intrauterine Exposure to Electromagnetic Field: Influence on Female Rats' Fertility, Prenatal and Postnatal Development.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/p...

Use of Mobile Phone During Pregnancy and the Risk of Spontaneous Abortion.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC44...

Oxidative Mechanisms of Biological Activity of Low-Intensity Radiofrequency Radiation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26151230

Effects of Prenatal 900 MHz Electromagnetic Field Exposures on the Histology of Rat Kidney.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25084839

The Effect of Exposure of Rats During Prenatal Period to Radiation Spreading from Mobile Phones on Renal Development.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25691088

Dosimetric Study of Fetal Exposure to Uniform Magnetic Fields at 50 Hz.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25266786

Influence of Pregnancy Stage and Fetus Position on the Whole-Body and Local Exposure of the Fetus to RF-EMF.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25098501

Autism-Relevant Social Abnormalities in Mice Exposed Perinatally to Extremely Low Frequency Electromagnetic Fields.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24970316

Pyramidal Cell Loss in the Cornu Ammonis of 32-day-old Female Rats Following Exposure to a 900 Megahertz Electromagnetic Field During Prenatal Days 13–21.
http://neuroquantology.com/index.php/journal/ar...

The Effects of 900 Megahertz Electromagnetic Field Applied in the Prenatal Period on Spinal Cord Morphology and Motor Behavior in Female Rat Pups.
http://www.neuroquantology.com/index.php/journa...

Fetal Radiofrequency Radiation Exposure From 800-1900 MHz-Rated Cellular Telephones Affects Neurodevelopment and Behavior in Mice.
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep00312

Cranial and Postcranial Skeletal Variations Induced in Mouse Embryos by Mobile Phone Radiation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19854628

Dysbindin Modulates Prefrontal Cortical Glutamatergic Circuits and Working Memory Function in Mice.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19641486

Stress Signalling Pathways that Impair Prefrontal Cortex Structure and Function.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC29...

Maternal Occupational Exposure to Extremely Low Frequency Magnetic Fields and the Risk of Brain Cancer in the Offspring.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19224378

Reproductive and Developmental Effects of EMF in Vertebrate Animal Models.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19272761

Prenatal and Postnatal Exposure to Cell Phone Use and Behavioral Problems in Child

Sources are good but they are much better when you actually read them to determine if they are relevant. It's good to question, but when you actually want to say that you know the truth about something, you have to do the work and the research and examine the issue, and not just take a headline and assume you know what something is about.

There are A LOT of links there and I'm definitely not going to look into every single one, but I checked out the first three. It's worth noting, though, that, looking through the titles, none of them specifically mention 5G networks, it looks like they are mostly about cell phone radiation in general.

First link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29530389

The abstract says that, for the highest amount of radiaton they used during the study, exposing the rats to the radiation for 19 hours a day from utero until they died that rats had a statistically significant increase in tumors. Meaning maybe the increase in incidence was due to the radiaton.

So, it seems to me the study is saying this: If you sat next to a cellphone tower for 19 hours a day from when you were conceived until you died, you might be more likely to develop a tumor.

Second link: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2018/7910...

"We aimed to evaluate the effect of 2100MHz radiofrequency radiation emitted by a generator, simulating a 3G-mobile phone on the brain of rats during 10 and 40 days of exposure."

"Our main finding was the increased oxidative DNA damage to brain after 10 days of exposure with the decreased oxidative DNA damage following 40 days of exposure compared to their control groups."

So my question is, what is this study really saying? Is it saying that you get acclimated to radiation after a month and it doesn't harm you as much? It doesn't say to what degree whatever damage it is doing is harmful. So it's definitely not conclusive evidence that the radiation used in the study is dangerous.

Third link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30635061

"RESULTS: Compared with girls with lower prenatal ELF-MF exposure, girls with higher exposure had a lower birth weight, thinner skinfold of triceps, abdomen and back, and smaller circumference of head, upper arm and abdomen in all three ELF-MF matrices. The differences were statistically significant for birth weight and most other growth measurements (P < 0.05). These measures had no significant difference between higher and lower prenatal ELF-MF exposure in boys except back skinfold thickness."


Again, the results of the study are clearly not conclusive. And there is a contradictory result in that it seemed to effect girls and not boys.


I definitely have an open mind on this stuff. I'm not here trying to say that cell phones are perfectly safe. I think the issue should be studied further, and if, after towers go up, adverse health affects are observed, we should take them down.

Being that the consensus among people who actually study this stuff for a living is that it's safe, I'm not opposed to them going up.

And like soco said earlier, they would be putting the towers up regardless of whether or not there was a coronovirus outbreak, if anything I bet the outbreak would slow things down, but I'm obviously not following the situation closely. Like most people, contrary to the OP's claim, I'm really not that concerned about it.

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This post is my safe place for holding onto bits im learning about the bible...

Ancient Greek looks and sounds really pretty:

ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΛΟΣΣΑΕΙΣ 1:16
ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα, εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε κυριότητες εἴτε ἀρχαὶ εἴτε ἐξουσίαι· τὰ πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν ἔκτισται·

https://biblehub.com/text/colossians/1-16.htm

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soco wrote:
Okay. I had already seen that video posted elsewhere. Conspiracy theorists are always seeking new converts to influence. They think the more wild and crazier it is the more people will believe it. I am still surprised at the magazines in stores that still print Bull ****shit after Bull ****shit and people just eat it up like candy.
Jetmoo, I still love you but you need to be careful what you believe. XOXOXO

I'm speaking specifically about the people who made and published/host the video, not anyone in this forum:

What bone has to be missing from your body to say lies like that? Like we all lie but to dedicate your life to lies like that...it's disgusting.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this point in my life but it ALWAYS puts a pit in my stomach. I feel bad that I turned into goop at this, COVID bs is clearly getting to me.

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I googled the guy in the video, "dr" Rashid Buttar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

Fake doctor who's been spreading false information for profit for years.

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And had a guy pretending to be an "anonymous doctor" OMG how friggin' dishonest.

I'm sorry but this gets me worked up I'm not trying to be mean here but I'm at my wits end with people taking facts about COVID out of context and spreading false information. "Sunlight kills it" IF THAT WERE TRUE HOW THE HECK WOULD IT SPREAD. HAVE YOU SEEN THE PLANET EARTH? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED BUT SUNLIGHT IS EVERYWHERE.

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soco wrote:
Video already deleted. What I miss?

The video says that one company invented COVID years ago, a different one back in November invented a vaccine, then implies that it was intentionally released so the companies could cash in on the vaccine sales.

All the while leaving a public, easily traceable paper trail.

Luckily, the video provided some sources that could easily be checked and vetted and I proved the claims made by the person who made the video 100 percent false. Not cus I'm so smart, but cus I bothered to check the information.

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"Weak virus" that puts people in the hospital, "sunlight kills it", completely false, "Doesn't cause sneezing" well I had it and I sneezed. UGH. Liars, liars, liars, getting people hurt, hurt, hurt.

I'm not mad at you just venting that people make videos like that they know is false, pretend to be friggin' DOCTOR. GRRRRRR. I hate liars.

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And I'm sorry but something should have seemed fishy to you when they said that there was a secret plot to invent a disease and kill people and then sell the vaccine for it....so secret that they APPLIED FOR PUBLIC PATENTS.

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This might come off as harsh but COVID-19 is a very serious thing killing a lot of people and the time for indulging in conspiracy theories and spreading false information is at an end.

The patents that the video refer to exist....but they have nothing to do with COVID-19. They have to do with coronaviruses.

People say "coronavirus" when referring to COVID 19 but this isn't 100 percent accurate. COVID 19 is a type of coronavirus. SARS, for example, which is what one of the patents refers to, is another type of coronavirus.

The person talking through the distortion on the video is clearly NOT a doctor, but a big fat liar. Maybe the same guy in the beginning of the video? Who knows, who cares.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-co...

Check out the patents.

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/1d/...

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/patent/US20062...

These are not patents for viruses. Or they sort of are, but not exactly? They are about specific components of different coronavirsues and how they could possibly be used in vaccines for those viruses. Not COVID, read the patent and you'll see. There is currently a lot of money and time being invested around the world trying to FIND a COVID-19 vaccine. They aren't doing that for the fun of it.

It took me 5-10 minutes of basic google research to disprove everything in this video. It's good that the video has sources at least, which we can check and verify. In this case, they misrepresented the sources and took facts out of context to make a controversial video that would increase their accounts visibility. Hopefully they get banned. This is a case where false information KILLS.

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