It's too late for finger pointing.

The world sees the U.S. exactly how the world elite wants them to see us.

Everyone is locked in their box socially distant from another, unable to truly verify anything first hand, with only a tiny box of propaganda of which the world elite have preprogrammed. You only know what they want you to know.

Do you remember that morale you were taught when it came to telling lies? That you have to tell another lie to cover the first and so forth for every lie after that?
That only applies to stupid people who have no business thinking they're smart enough to tell lies.
Well crafted and highly tuned lies - lies of "genius" are supported by innumerable foundations of truth.

That hit me in the feels. Electoral College is so anachronistic.

Other than that, he's just saying what's obvious to anyone who's paying attention.

The conservative lobby groups that organized the anti-social distancing protests will soon have blood on their hands. Hopefully the people at the rallies who will die of coronavirus will have family with the wherewithal and resources to sue people for wrongful death after this is over. Or find some way of getting justice. Such a tragedy. And an utterly pointless one.

What does that mean? He already got people killed so people should just forget about it and move on?

I dont think its finger pointing to say the leader of a country handled a disaster disastrously. Its the undeniable truth.
Also its an article written from an outside perspective.
Besides Trump is finger pointing China (and anyone else he can right now), trying to avoid responsibility left and right. Actually he's always done that. He may be the biggest finger pointer that ever lived.

Why not?

Hilary Clinton (and Bill) has more unresolved, personal blood, on her hands than Trump.... Those who voted for her AND wanted her elected President in the last race seemed to have forgot about it and moved on...

This is a testament to how weak Trump is as a President. Hilary lost and hasn't returned to any political prominence for his four years and still that's all you can say in Trump's defense. Trump has done so little for us that all people can say is "well, Hilary would have been worse!" Okay, glad we're agreed there is nothing to be said for Trump's value as a President. I'm not going to disagree with you on Clinton because I literally do not care but she doesn't matter anymore.

Extreme is the word I would use for the US.

Everyone seems to be extreme left or extreme right.

I think it’s sad to see. I think trump is the wrong president, I think he’s suffering mental decline, he’s egotistical And narcissistic. And because of that he has no filter and says things that he should not be saying. He’s incoherent most of the time. A terrible communicator.

But I also think the media is toxic and skewed. Only writing for the shock factor, again, very extreme and whipping up hate for either side.

I wish America could be more together. The UK too. Divide and conquer. And they sure are dividing us.

I think most people are in the middle no matter where you go, the problem is the extreme people are the most vocal and attract the most attention, and it's an arms race with each side trying to out-shock the other, and there is no incentive to scale things down, at least no political incentives to do so.

Things seem more extreme now than they did 50 years ago because information moves so much faster now and the internet allows for anyone to have a platform to say, literally, whatever they want. So it's like you gave every ant colony in the world nukes to see what would happen. It's really easy to be angry on the internet. When you actually see people face to face, our empathy instincts kick in much more easily.

I don't think there is much to be done about it except maybe after a couple of decades things will naturally calm down...I think people get tired of being constantly outraged eventually.

Trouble is, Hilary worshipers have been in perpetual mourning since her loss.
Because of that -

"Us," in this case is a matter of perspective. I'd further clarify that but (probably to my reget), I'm feeling too lazy so I just won't.
I don't hear former Hilary voters regretting their ballot decisions...and are any of the Democrats looking at any of the good which Trump has done? No, and as you said, Hilary herself has kept relatively invisible and silent during the course of the current administration. She doesn't have to say anything because her loyal subjects haven't shut their mouth for the past four years.
So, glad we agree that the general liberal/Democrat has been her loyal vocal sock puppet all these years.

Say that to the friends and families of the dead by her hand.
Oh, and....Jerry Epstein didn't kill himself.

Nevermind. I dont want to waste anymore time with you.

Let me know when you're ready to offer one.

I'm not sorry that I'm not letting help be YOUR safe space where everyone has the same opinion as you and doesn't challenge anything you say.

We can all be friends and disagree.

I haveny really got the energy to read lots. I hope its ok to answer that brief question.

I think USA holds alot of power to deceive people. But not as much power as the Lord and his son :)

Many false prophets around and lots big ones in USA but there not only in USA but around the world.

I would not like to live in USA. Sorry if offends

I dont understand the whole saluting the flag stuff either. Because no person is better than anotherm no group of people are better rhan any other group.

God judges everyone individually no matter where one lives.

God says do not be loving the world or the things in it. Store up your treasures in heaven

I don't think that's offensive at all.

I agree with a certain amount of reverence for the flag and the anthem. It is a cultural thing. Like why is a middle finger offensive in one culture but a thumbs up is offensive in another country. We have a certain history and ways of thinking about our country...but. People definitely take it too far and get overly concerned with outward, symbolic shows of patriotism and don't look at how people actually act.

I think it is a form of causing division between those who are from USA and those outside of it and arrogance and perhaps a form of self idolatry

And treating one another in USA with more respect than people outside of it.

Traditiona should only be followed when people truly understand them but people mimic behaviour and do not ask questions. People do not like to stand alone. Safery comes in numbers is what people feel. Many are frightened to be different.

People dont like to attract negative attention to themselves

People want to be seen in socially desirable ways because they would like to be included in the social solidarity.

It feels good to be a part of something much bigger than themselves.

But we should always love our neighbour wherever they come from or live.

And people can be a part of something much bigger when they realise they are part of so ething much bigger than the USA. We are all a part of the human race which in itself shouls bring us together.

I agree and disagree. Both my parents are immigrants, I'm born in the US. I have gone back and forth in my life between idealistically patriotic when I was very young, to be totally disillusioned and unenthusiastic about my country as I got a little older, to now in my life where I think I am at a healthy medium.

There is nothing wrong with being proud of where you live. But you also have to being willing to question your government when they do something wrong or dishonest or are corrupt, etc. And you should always respect other cultures and peoples, and welcome visitors here as guests and not treat them with suspicion or like you are better than them.

I think you can be patriotic and still love other people from other countries, you are just proud of where you live and where you come from.

@Jetmoo

I'm not offended because I know that people are going to be where they are at, for better or worse. And, even if it happens to be worse it's something they're familiar with.

It's true that no person or group is any better than another but that cannot be said of ruling governments.

I couldn't live in the UK because it's size alone. I guess I'm used to having the space and the opportunity to travel and seeing an incredible diversity of landscapes - it is a blessing.
I can only hope that one day, you may have the chance to at least visit and see for yourself.

https://youtu.be/ks7SY2V73oY

I began to reply to this, but I lost my previous attempt - my computer is on it's way out. But to try and summarize what my original reply was...

It's hard to answer this. On a personal level, I once had such admiration and loyalty toward the US. From a child, my dream career, all the way into adulthood was cemented into relocating into the US. But after certain personal traumas and events, it changed in a direction that I (nor anyone who knew me before then) never thought it would. Even close friends and family are shocked that my perspectives of the US have changed, since they have known me long enough to witness that I basically loved the US more than my own country to the level of obsession and could be seen somewhat even treasonous.

But it does break my heart, and I have lost a lot of love and respect for the country I once declared many times I would rather die for, than the land that I grew up on. I brushed of its ugly side and its flaws and was utterly convinced it could never do any wrong...

But somewhere along the way; I just couldn't ignore some of the darker things anymore. I can't even really pinpoint where it happened, nor when I first started to notice it. And it hurts when I look at things now and wish I could feel like I used to. I feel like it's not the land I grew up loving and some day wished to call my own, and my home. I wanted to study there, and begin my career there. Even if it wasn't my first career choice, I hoped my second choice would also blossom. But I think now... I just wouldn't feel safe.

I guess because I too, have changed so much? I don't know. But...from how I'm seeing it these days. I used to notice the love and the friendliness...but now, I feel that if I were there, I'd be constantly looking over my shoulder, wondering whenever I made even a slight mistake that someone did not approve of...I would be seen as an enemy just for existing.

My world seems smaller already these days with my dreams dwindling. But my heart will forever hurt that the country that I loved for almost 30 years of my life, now terrifies me.

There are people in this country who make me proud to be an american. Fiona hill is one of them, which aria's comment made me think of. Mitt Romney made me proud when stood up to trump in the impeachment hearing.

There are good people. Honestly i blame the internet. Lies meant to divide and confuse us are spreading like wildfire. Also trump has taken government corruption to a whole new level and it's problem. We'll see how the next few years play out.

I'm in Australia, and still here. I never relocated to the US, and quite honestly, I don't think I could now. Which is an entirely different outcome I once had for myself and my future children.

When i was a kid watching the films on tv of America, like Jonny 5, made me think it was an amazing place.

But now im older i 6hink of guns, big pharma and poor food standards, i dont frel the same anymore either. I think of war and division in the name of fighting for the country. And that is not much different here too i suppose but im not proud of those going to war. I am proud of those who spead peace like president john kennedy. His speech made me cry. I doubt there will be another one and if one comes about they will likely be assassinated aswell.

What i dont like is when a film, eg The Stand, suggests the whole world but only actually includes amercia as if they ARE the whole world and the rest of the world are excluded as if they are of no importance.

I have always thought it would be pretty cool to travel thro USA vos there is so much there and yo enjoy the culture.

I DO love things like digferent accents! I LOVE copying accents :D anr i love lrarning the fifferent words the americans use yo the English. But i dont think id like to live there.

We dont get crocodiles here or wildlife trying to kill us or proper earthquakes, hurricanes. It seems safer here.

But the rett of the world is following now and becoming more insafe too.
Not that they were really all that safe to begin with

I do like the idea of seeing the different natural climates and mountains n stuff