Jetmoo wrote:
Lano wrote:
Jetmoo wrote:
https://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Electrical_sensitivityThat fallacy, coupled with the fact that there is a link to a supplement store on the site, makes me narrow my eyes and not want to trust that site.
I think you are being very judgemental. That lady risks her whole career to advocate for those with ME. She has put so much free information in her website and made youtube videos which are free to look at and podcasys to try and help people. They have a free facebook group to try and help people. Everything she has done to help us is alot more than the majority of drs who have left us to die with no hope at all. She has an award for ine of her books. Reviews on amazon all amazing. Ive read some of her stuff.
Are you aware that she has tried to hold the PACE trail authors to account with the general medical coucil for all the abuse and deaths caused by them? If the GMC do not hold the authors to account she is taking them to court. How many other dtd have done that? None that i know of
Are you aware of the MAIMES campaign she is doing to help us with ME get MPs to notice us and help us? MAIMES stands for medical abused in ME sufferers.
Or about the complaint she made to GMC and trying to assist those without a voice to be able to whistle blow their abuse?
Just because she has a shop doesnt mean people have to buy things from her.
She even put together a website where u can choose from a choice of drs. Not just her. She makes it very clear she is not taking on more people because she is full up and has been for a very long time.
She left the NHS which has the security of money and holidays and a pension and more money when u push certain treatments. She went private because NHS was restrictive so she was very limited in how she could help people.
She genuinely wants to help people. Even thougj she has written multiple books alot of their content is in her website.
I copied a bunch of quotes from her book and shes happy for me to share it with the dr surgery who have no clue of ME.
She has done research to try and help us. She has dedicated her life to helping us.
I am glad she has helped you and others with your condition. I will take your word that she is a very good person and has done a lot of public good.
Either way, the stuff she said about EHS seems fishy to me for the reasons I said.
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I also share different views on different things. But if the reader wants to check things then thats their choice aswell.What you say is an opinion and opinions are neither right nor wrong. They simply are
Its not my job to take care of everyone else. It is not possible to please everyone 100% of the time. People will always disagree.
Two different people can respond completely differently to the same thing. How someone responds to simuli is not up to me. It is up to that person how they choose to respond. I cant live in fear of not speaking incase i displease someone.
I ofcourse try not to but free speech is something we all have a right to aswell and freewill to make our own decisions
If one is distressed by stimuli then id advise them to look the other way.I dont think its my job to anticipate what everyone thinls and feels.
And as much as i care about people sometimes the truth hurts but is best said in the long term.id rather people told ne the truth then kept it from me.
And what one thinks is a credible source on the internet another will disagree. It is impossible to please everyone. Trying to please everyone is not a healthy way to live.
We all do make mistakes and I understand that, and if I was capable of saying what I said in a way that wasn't offensive I would have but I don't know how to when it comes to this. People are dying everyday by the hundreds. I am less concerned with other people's feelings when it comes to false information about COVID 19.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No one is entitled to their own facts.
I am paraphrasing but you said something to the effect that you do not trust Bill Gates and think maybe he shouldn't be involved with vaccines or whatever.
Okay. That is fine. The stuff you wrote yourself is an opinion and you presented it as such, for the most part. I do not judge you for that. Feel free to express your opinion.
Again, even if your opinion is "I think COVID is perfectly safe and not killing anyone and this is all a waste." Again, fine, your opinion. I will vehemently disagree because all the facts say otherwise, but you are allowed to express it.
What I DO judge is sharing a video that presents opinion as fact and intentionally misrepresents facts in order to increase their account's visibility or push a political agenda.
That is what this video was doing. You do not have a right to pretend you are a doctor and share false information about an illness that is killing people. You do not get to be self-righteous about lying to people and claim "well, I have free speech!" That is wrong.
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"If it is not worth your time to fact-check questionable information, it is not worth your time to share it."I dont think thats very fair @Lano its not about not having time, its about not having health.
U made it sound like i had much a choice. My health is not a choice.
Your health is not your choice, but sharing information that you did not know whether or not it was true was a choice.
Jetmoo wrote:
lano wrote:
The theory of evolution and the flatness/sphericalness of the Earth seems completely off topic to me, you oughta make a different topic if you want to discuss that stuff.When people tell others what they should or should not do it suggestive that they themselves feel they are above others and can be offenssive.
Can i suggest that instead of telling people what to do, that you make suggestions instead. Then it sounds like u r trying to be helpful rather than criticising people. As most people would react at those kinds of words.
The word should is an offensive word aswell and other words that suggest the same meaning as the word should. Because it is always used as a criticism towards another. And never for any positive suggestion.
Saying you outta is effectively the same as saying you should.
lano wrote:
It's not my job to disavow you of all your incorrect beliefs
if u dont want to do something then please dont. I dont want anyone to do anything they feel obliged to do, as if i am a burden. Id rather someone did something for another because they wanted to. Not because they felt they had to.
I said "should" and I mean it. The video is not about evolution or what shape the earth is. I'm sorry if it came off offensive. You do not have to listen to me, do whatever you want.
"if u don't want to do something"
You missed the part where I said I did want to do it.
- writtenJetmoo wrote:
https://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Electrical_sensitivity
The article doesn't mention scientific studies. The author says "I've met a lot of people with EHS, so it must be real." Ok, fair enough, but that is only anecdotal evidence. "EMR is known to cause cancer." Not all EMR, only ionizing EMR, which are not the kind emitted by electrical devices.
That fallacy, coupled with the fact that there is a link to a supplement store on the site, makes me narrow my eyes and not want to trust that site.
https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/...
That is a link for the who, I have a feeling you won't trust them, fair enough.
Edit: I read too fast sometimes, there is a study mention in the myhill page, but it's doesn't seem to be directly about EHS, more about biological effects of EMF exposure, and even seems to talk about therapeutic uses of EMFs.
Jetmoo wrote:
Id love to learn greek. Im lucky to have some jewish friends who now herbrew. And i figured i might be able to ask them about some translaions as to their accuracy. Its a thought anyway
I've always thought that if I get a tattoo I will get some phrase or something in Ancient Greek. That'd be neat.
I don't think I want a tattoo though. It's just a fun thought.
- writtenSorry if that comes off as aggressive or harsh but this is a topic I'm a little hot-headed about.
- writtenYou make very long comments Jetmoo, which is fine, but also makes it impossible for me to respond to everything.
Jetmoo wrote:
And a molecule of fat produces more molecules of ATP for energy and using fat for energy also produces less oxidative stress during respiration.We are encouraged by those we trust to make ourselves more sick.
Responding to because I actually have a fatty liver so I've been prescribed a low fat diet. So something I think about a lot.
Animal fat specifically, or all fat?
The problem with animal fat is it's often "bad fat" that your body is inefficient at breaking down and tends to get stuck in your system, and collect in places...like my liver. Most plant fat isn't great for you either. Animal fats are worse because they also have a high cholesterol content and that gets stuck in your arteries, gums them up, and makes it more likely for you to have a heart attack or stroke.
Omega 3s are good fats that are easier for your body to break down and studies suggest hey can actually help clear out the bad fat and cholesterol in your system. They can be found in both animal and plant fat forms, but the animal fat version is actually better for you because it is easier for your body to break it down into a usable form. However, it turns out plant algae also has that kind of fat...maybe it's something about the sea, who knows. In any case I have a plant algae version since I am a vegetarian.
I was already a vegetarian when I found out about my fatty liver so I wasn't getting animal fat from meat...but I love cheese and I was eating cheese daily and often more than once a day. So I high on animal fat and cholesterol.
So, on my dr's advice I cut out the cheese (I still eating a couple of times a week, but a lot less) and I lost 15 lbs in a couple of month and felt physically much better too.
To respond the stuff that's actually about 5G: My understanding, based on my professional google research (I'm being facetious) is that the type of radiation emitted by cell phone towers is non-ionizing and does not directly damage cells or mutate DNA. And studies that have shown there to be an increase in tumors in rats exposed to EMF, the different between control groups and experimental groups is so small that the difference could just as well be chance...also from the three studies I looked at that you studied...I mean, they were really trying to fry those poor rats, weren't they? I feel bad for the poor guys.
On the other stuff...a lot of what you are saying is really anecdotal and hasn't been seriously studied and could just as easily be coincidence. Why is one kid suffering but not the others? And other questions I could ask but I would be here all day.
The other stuff about ME I REALLY know nothing about and won't waste your time by trying to speak to it. And besides, it's not what the topic is about. I understand you are trying to say that some dr's are corrupt or perhaps just bad drs, but that's something I already know, believe me. And I believe you when you say you have been treated badly, and I am sorry to hear.
Jetmoo wrote:
Did you read the link from Dr Myhill?
I have no idea, there are a lot of links there.
- writtenI don't really get the aluminium foil thing. Is that like, a reference to something? I used to make men out of aluminum foil that my mom wrapped my pb and j sandwich in when I was in school. Is that what you are referencing? How did you know that? Are you in the NSA? Is your last name Rockefeller?
In all seriousness, I appreciate you at least looking at the evidence I presented. Even as I am confused as to why you aren't able to see what it is saying. In any case, it led to a more interesting comment to read than the part where you started talking about Rothschilds as if that had anything to do with what I was saying.
There is one part that was most interesting to ME because I am actually legitimately confused about it. I am seeing conflicting sources on it.
Namely, I see sources that do claim that the CDC (who owns the patent in question) routinely patent naturally occurring viruses in order to prevent private companies from doing so, to prevent those companies from holding research on it hostage.
But I also see lots of source that say that, as you say, you cannot patent a discovery.
And yet AGAIN, I see sources that say patenting naturally occurring viruses and their genetic code is a legal gray area and that there was actually a supreme court case about in 2013.
Obviously I would need to do more research to figure out the truth but I've also reached my limit on this topic for now.
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My point of view is that i feel responsible to tell people what is going on but it is hard for me because i dont have the energy to research everything as much as I want to. I have to be picky where i use my energy.But i know that vaccines have harmful toxins in them. I know big pharma does not have the public in its best interest. I know the big companys work together to increase each of their profits.
I know that scientists and Drs can be corrupt. I know bill gates is not a Dr so he shouldnt be doing a Drs job.
I have so little faith in these people and feel the need to make people aware of dangers of vaccines and 5G and some other things aswell that i cant think of right now.
I still dont feel that the covid19 was natural and Trump himself said that the virus was "artificially induced". And i saw a tweat by Bill Gates from last year saying that he was looking forward for profits from vaccines the next year 2020.
It is hard to trust people who censor others. All people have the right to share their views and if people are stopped sharing their views online it will soon end up that people can not talk on the streets unless they are conforming the the authorities. People are not alllowed to question the authorities so then authorities can get away wih whaever they want. Authorities have double standards and it is ok for them to do something but not ok for the public to do it.
They even censor when people dicuss vaccines harms but those who are vaccine harmed are told they are just mentally ill and it couldnt possibly be from the vaccines. It is exactly thee sae way people with ME have been treated for years. People have died abslutely torturous deaths from ME and abuse. If vaccines can not harm people then there should be no reluctance to discuss them.
I have seen so much corruption it is so hard for me to trust authorities. Those further down the heirachy may have peoples best interrests at heart but that doesnt mean those higher up the heirachy have our best interests at heart. And people futher down the heirachy will not get to now of all the discussins that take place with those above them. They sieve out the information and only tell them what they want them to know.
And they seem to be using drones to spy on everyone and even facebook monitors every single website you go on. There is a setting you have to click to delete all the sites you have visted on it. I cleared mine.
They are invading peoples privacy all the time. They even listen through mobiles when you have not requested the phone to take notice of your talking. My carer was talking about snow boarding with me and later when she came back she said that she was looking online and in her adverts it came up snowboarding holidays. I think thats because the phone listens to everything. I have put bluattack over every camera lens on my phone and i pad. Maybe i shud do it on the sounds part too?
I have an understanding of biology that many people do not have so i feel responsible to make people aware. But it is hard to get all the info together to do everything properly and i always sacrfice my health trying to do so.
I have heard many stories about the covid19. A nurse in newyork says that people are getting treated less than human in hosiptals and says all new york hospitals need investigating.
I heard from someone who i think is n england say someting simliar bu they were not my friend, i saw it on a friend own post. They had see the newyork girls post and said she believes it considering how her dad was treated.
Also hospitals get more money for every covid19 patient they have and some corrupt drs are changing death certificaes to portray a larger number of covid19 patients.
There have been people online who have said that they were told they tested positive for covid19 even though they had never had any blood test and they were told they would have to go in the covid19 ward even though they kept telling them they had never been tested and had undelying health problems that put them at very high risk if put in the ward so the person discharged themselves and were told they would not be given their medication if they dischared themselves. But not everyone has family to stand up for them and this person hasnt the only one who mentions this kind of treatment either.
There is alot of fishy buisiness going on. My gut tells me something is not right many things are not right. But its a matter of figuring out where the facts lie between the truth and deception.
Someone told me the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle and i think theyre right. People are deceived because those who lie usually use alot of facts to back up their lies. And because people see those truths they think it is all true.
It is unbelieveable that we have been deceived so much. The amount of things i have learnt the last year is unbelievable. Life has truely been a massive illusion. If only people knew what i knew. Even things i was taught at collage have not all been fact but were taught as fact.
Children in schools are being taught facts that are not facts at all but assumptions masqurading as facts. For example evolution theory is nothing but a theory but it is taught as if it is a fact. The big bang theory is taught as if it a fact but it is nothing but a theory. Creationism is also a theory that people cannot prove. But it is put in religion instead of science. Perhaps the other theories coild be moved to philosophy or arleast made clear to be unproven theories not facts.
Even the new world translations bible seems to have been meddled with, it seems the watchtower first began from a freemason and there is alot of deception there. And i felt that there may be some false truths going on but thought i had kept my eyes open. I never realised it was as corrupt as it seems to be.
It makes you wonder what do you truely believe anymore? The only thing we can truely believe is what we see with our own eyes rather than what someone else tells us.
It seems even NASA has lied to people. One thing i have looked in to more is the earth being flat. I laughed at first thinking people were nuts but it makes alot of sense when you take the time to understand the facts that support this way if thinking.
Perhaps if it had not been for a friend who had passed away afew years ago then i may not have even bothered to question it and research it. But he had had discussions with someone else and i was watching on fb of them disagreeing with each other on afew things. I didnt like the other guy and thought that my frined must not like him very much either but when i spoke with my friend he said the other guy is a nice guy and he likes to hear odifferent peoples views. And said its good to see different peoples perspectives. And its the one thing i took from him and tried to do the same myself since. I am thankful for that lesson.
Whew. That is a lot. Some of which I agree with, a lot of which I don't. I fact checked the article posted because it was on a specific topic, and it was frankly very easy to do and didn't take me much time.
There is way more in what you are saying than I have the time or energy myself to engage with entirely. It's not my job to disavow you of all your incorrect beliefs, despite it is indeed my urge too, as I too, see it as my responsibility to share Truth with people and to help people become more critical thinkers and think more clearly on things.
I will just respond to a few things that you said.
First, I am sorry that have and health issue that limits your energy in the way that you are saying.
That said, if you are not sure something is true (and this is a case where you clearly were not sure) DO NOT SHARE IT. You just shared misinformation about an INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY. That is extremely IRRESPONSIBLE.
Good rule of thumb:
If it is not worth your time to fact-check questionable information, it is not worth your time to share it. Period.
I do not think the issue here is that you do not trust authorities. I say that because in posting this video trusting an authority is exactly what you did. The only difference is that this authority agreed with something you already believed or already had an inclination to believe. You said yourself a few times that "your gut tells you* and that "you feel x y or z". So it seems to me any information that confirms your hunches is getting a free pass on your internal skepticism filter.
If you hear a random, unsourced pieced of information that exactly fits in with your already held beliefs or attitudes, the fact that it does so is EVEN MORE OF A REASON TO FACT CHECK IT.
People who make videos like this know that there is a lot of mistrust of government and scientists. They take advantage of this. You were manipulated into giving this person's misinformation account more visibility on the internet so they can get more hits on their other videos and more monetization.
Donald Trump has never studied medicine a day in his life. His opinion about what a virus is or isn't is about as meaningful as my opinion, which is to say, not meaningful AT ALL. Trump wants people to think China invented the virus because he wants people to blame China for all the blood that is on his hands so that he'll get to be King of America for another 4 years.
The theory of evolution and the flatness/sphericalness of the Earth seems completely off topic to me, you oughta make a different topic if you want to discuss that stuff. Preferably separate ones.
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