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I don't usually make political posts.

Slash wrote:
I don't think anyone really cares for the meaning of this country like they used to, anymore.
I didn't care for Bill Clinton's adminestraion and oddly, I was a bit taken back by the whole Lewenski/Tripp/Star ordel. I thought it was disgusting and I'm not talking about the Bill/Monica affair....
What disgusted me the most were the people's desire to smear the Presidential seat on the world stage at all costs.
John F. Kennedy went down in history as one of the greatest presidents to have ever lived....yet....just as it so happened to be he was also going down on Marylin Monroe.
You didn't see then people who were willing to make that the focal point of Kennedy's administration - we protected the image of the Presidency because it matters - the world watches and makes its plans based on the weakness of the chair.
But, nowadays (for the sheer entertainment), we're happy to throw anything to the wolves.
I'm glad Trump made President. Because of that, you can still tell the school kids that you can grow up to be anything you like including the President of the United States, otherwise it would have fallen to the hands of career politicians who generously liberate themselves with every facet that money, position and power have to offer - a sort of "Golden Corral" you will never get to experience.

My two quibbles with that is first, that there is a diffenence between the President cheating on his or her spouse and them doing something that can hurt the integrity of the democratic process. I think Trump's current position is closer to Nixon's.
And second, i don't think trump's starting line was ever similar to any old random kid without any special money or power to get what he or she wants.

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Is this weird?

What yeti said. Using your body, him using his. You're in a more primal state than your natural, defensive, walking down the street mode.

I have similar experiences when my hairdresser is being a bit more sensual than she needs to be. That is all i will say about that.

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I don't usually make political posts.

Araz wrote:
But in order for him to be impeached, the house would have to vote on it and then in order for him to be thrown out of office, the senate would have to vote 2/3 in favor, correct? I think the Supreme Court gets involved? But I could be wrong about that, Iโ€™m going off memory.

I feel like what the republicans could have done rather than bend over backwards to adopt he-can-do-no-wrong attitude towards the prez was say, ok you're president. Now lets just do what we want to do and ignore you.

Their agenda probably would have gone a lot further. And they wouldn't look as bad as they are looking right now.

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I don't usually make political posts.

Araz wrote:

Lano wrote:
I actually am in a debate club where everyone has different opnions and we all argue but we dont hate eachother after. I do find it easier to engage with some of them than others, being a civilized arguer takes practice and patience.

@Lano nice! Political discussions work if everyone involved donโ€™t take things personally. I always wanted to be part of a debate club ๐Ÿ˜Š I was in a club that focused on international security and politics when I was in uni. It was the only place Iโ€™ve ever seen debate without getting heated... except for this one guy, but thereโ€™s always that one guy lol.

It's a nice social outlet. Ours is very chill, we know we are not experts and that its all fun and games

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I don't usually make political posts.

Araz wrote:
I also try to avoid political posts. Everyone is so divided and itโ€™s hard not to take things personally. I have the benefit of being surrounded by people with different political ideologies, which forces me to question my own beliefs constantly. The consensus, however, even for those that supported Trump in the past, is that heโ€™s a liar and amoral.

I actually am in a debate club where everyone has different opnions and we all argue but we dont hate eachother after. I do find it easier to engage with some of them than others, being a civilized arguer takes practice and patience.

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I don't usually make political posts.

Araz wrote:
I would say - โ€œThere is no way Trump will be re-elected.โ€

But I also said โ€œThere is no way Trump will be elected.โ€ I was very obviously proven wrong there.

I truly believe that he should be impeached as well, just as Clinton was for perjury. I donโ€™t believe this will happen.

And, if he was... we have Mike Pence as president and the thought of that makes me want to hurl.

I think if Pence came into office he would have an ineffectual less than two years and then probably not run for reelection.

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Facebook is really beginning to suck big time!

Araz wrote:
@Lano Iโ€™m sure thereโ€™s a workaround/way to make that happen... I just donโ€™t know what it is lol. Not very helpful, I know.

I think that facebook has gone out of their way to either make that impossible or very hard.

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Facebook is really beginning to suck big time!

Araz wrote:

Lano wrote:
The thing I hate about facebook, was, in order to require you to use their phone app, they stopped sending notification emails when, let's say, you get a pm from someone. So they made their product worse, deliberately, in order to manipulate their customers behavior.

Amoral behavior in my opinion. I do use it though, but just have an alternate mode of contact that I rarely check up on.

I got rid of the Facebook app and kept FB messenger app which resolves the issue youโ€™re having

Nah, i want no app at all. For the thing i use to work on its own and not think about facebook unless someone messages me or leaves something on my wall.

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I don't usually make political posts.

That's fine with me. I really hesitated in posting this but I decided to go ahead and get on my 20 or so person pulpit here and preach.

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Facebook is really beginning to suck big time!

The thing I hate about facebook, was, in order to require you to use their phone app, they stopped sending notification emails when, let's say, you get a pm from someone. So they made their product worse, deliberately, in order to manipulate their customers behavior.

Amoral behavior in my opinion. I do use it though, but just have an alternate mode of contact that I rarely check up on.

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