I think you'll find that the modern social justice woman will welcome transgender males. To begin with, they are beta males, submissive slave drones to be dominated by the S.J. wanna-be alpha hen committee.
Few of these "dudes" believe in God but love the theory of evolution. Sadly for them, the natural course of nature has made no provision for their kind. Therefore, what they want becomes more of a force of will and completely un-natural. It literally requires surgery and hormone therapy. But no matter the case, nothing rearranges those XY chromosomes on that DNA helix.

I’m ok with it.

What I do worry about though is how fashionable it seems to be becoming. And how people may use it as a get out of jail card, to get away with things.

I also worry about them taking part in women’s sports. I just don’t think it would be fair.

There have always been transgendered people through history. What few of them stayed in the closet - others could be found in the "arts" such as Cabaret shows and the performing arts, when women weren't often allowed a position.
But, there was a line drawn and it was understood and things were fairly respectful....but now? Society has exploded with an abundance of these creatures because it's the effect of them turning their back on God.

I considered several responses but I could not compose a polite one. @BA1 has managed to do that, so I defer to him.

By changing over do you mean those males going through gender identity surgery?

I actually cant believe some of the responses here.

So, in essence, what your saying is, man can no longer dominate women, so they are becoming them?

It's so *******fucking ridiculous. It sounds like men are feeling very threatened by strong women and are using God to cover their *****asses.

Im sorry you feel threatened by my ****tits

I am completely fine with it, and I support their rights. I even have transmen as some of my closest friends. In fact, one of them is probably one of the very few people I trust completely.

Jenner, however, is just insulting. They're a walking hypocrisy and bad example of what not to be like.

As for the religious part of the question, I won't get into it because my faith is personal and not anyone else's business but my own. My romantic interest (we're not officially dating yet) is Atheist and even respects that, I don't see why everyone has to define a person's character or sanity/insanity by whether they are religious or not.

However, if someone knocks at mys door at 8:30AM on a Saturday to try and proselytize to me, I have every right to look at them like they've grown two heads and loudly question why the HELL would they annoy me on my day off from unpleasant discussions.

Actually, it's 4:22AM right now, and I really shouldn't have even mentioned it...

Thank you SmartAZ - this will be my first direct deference in the history of my orations. I will do my best to maintain levity as the subject goes supercritical (haha).

Well....just remember that transgenderism is a two way road. Not only dudes are wanting to get their fem on, there seem to be a strong number of woman who want to get their dude on, as well.
Because of the fact I'm a guy, I can speak for my fellow brother and the error of his ways. As for transgendered women....I can only sum it up to *****penis envy - else we'll be here all night digging through rabbit holes through the earth before we see light at the end of the tunnel.

I think most TG people have certain genuine grievances but way too much privilege and time on their hands - turning themselves into something even they regret sooner than later (but then it's far too late, the damage is done and the only thing to do is hold onto it like an investment).

Well, Nix, you literally open your first reply with, "I'm for it." but closed out with, " I just don’t think it would be fair."
You need to understand there is no arrangement of acceptance that's going to make anything they do fair. I think you should be more concerned with who is sitting next to you in the public bathroom stall than why your opposing team has just won the game....?right?

Opening a statement in this fashion is a tactic to rewrite the original meaning intended. There's a never ending supply of "So what you're saying is," to derail any narrative that is misunderstood or not liked.

No, Nix. What I'm saying is a jar of poison can pollute the whole tank. Genuine, man-hating women do have an affect on their normal, grass roots grown, fellow sisters.
I don't mind a "strong woman" but I don't need spit in the face having opened a door for what seems, in all appearences, a woman....
And why should I settle for being tricked? I don't need to hold a door open, only to find the eyelashes batting back to me ultimately belong to a transgendered male - gross....

I think you would feel more threatened if I reveal my E-mail to you and say, I'm looking forward to seeing them.👀
Love ya girl😉

I can agree with transgenders but be concerned about the fairness in women's sport. Of course physically it’s not going to be fair, so are we going to see more men transitioning so they can be the top of women’s sport or be mediocre in men’s sport? It’s possible.

But regarding other aspects then it’s fine.

Why would I be concerned about who is sitting next to me in the bathroom? It’s a laughable argument because if anyone did look over, take pictures or whatever else they might do, man or woman, it is an offence and they should be reported.

Most transgender people what to get on with their lives, not harass other women. Any man that dresses as a women solely to get into a bathroom is a sick individual who would be arrested.

I still don’t really understand what you are saying but it sounds to me like you will open doors for anatomical women, but not women who were born men?

Personally I hold the door open for anyone. Man or woman. Old or young. Ugly or beautiful.

@Nix
I completely agree with you regarding the sports issue, but the problem is, you are cherry picking the issue - as if 👉this👈 were the only thing of question that the transgendered bring and nothing else. Not the case.
I'll say it again, the grievance you have isn't going away by focusing on your slice of the perceived problem......?
It would literally take a full measure of discrimination to put what you want to bed.
"There will be no transgender allowed to play on teams whose women were born women at birth."
What kind of bullshit talk is that? That's another thing I have an issue with. There are no women who were born as a man. Women are not trapped in men's bodies nor are men trapped in women's bodies.
I gotta tell ya, the Volkswagon motor company in Germany isn't rolling out Rolls Royce cars from their assembly line.... Hondas don't go 'round "feeling" like they're Fords....no matter how many "Ford" stickers you slap on it. I don't have to call a Honda with Ford stickers a "Ford" because it never was and never will be. I am not required to share in the delusion of a customized personal pronoun.

When you say that I won't hold doors open for women who were born men, you're sending off a flare that says you're not up to date with biological facts.... It has nothing to do with me being a bigot(and by the way, I do hold the door open for all, in general including the transgendered, psychopaths, killers, the deranged, theives, liars, cheaters, jigalos, hoes, the godless, the satanic, the possessed, the lost and the saved).

No. Not most by a long shot - only some. The argument for transgendered persons is a lot like the argument for the need of abortion (you know, "life of the mother," "****rape," or "incest,). Who cares that 95% of real abortions are a result of recreational ***sex, (well, it is my body....). Yes, but abortion is about what you do to someone else's body - end of argument.
Sure, there's a few slim arguments you can make the transgendered but only for those that fit within a very narrow specification.

Honestly, why would you be concerned about women's sports being dominated by the transgendered? Given your view, they're still women.

Meanwhile, real men have been batteling transgender issues long before it threatened your favorite sports team. It's sad that's what it takes, but why does it have to come to that?

Why are there girls in the Boyscouts when there is an organization called the Girlscouts? (Don't answer, it's not a real question).

There are only two genders. Male and female. You weren't born a Barbie doll or a Ken doll. Your biology at birth is your ***sex (or "gender").

The real problem is that it seems that the philosophy department of schools has no respect for the biology department.

Is it fair a hetrosexual man who thinks hes dating an atteactive women suddenly finds out months later that his date was a guy?

Im totally impressed with slashes responses.
Id like to see what books you authored.
Wow wow wow

Ok, lets deal in facts, not feelings or opinions.

People are not cars. The issue goes far beyond men just one day deciding to be women. Its a psychological. Like being gay, depression, etc.

With the sports teams problem, because your so persistent with it, I dont think trans women should be allowed to play womens sports. At all, not even if it is a team of trans woman against biological women. Because, at the end of the day, they are biologically men (not psychologically), they still have XY chromosomes, nothing is changing that yet.

What part of this sentence says that you are happy to hold the door for anyone transgendered?

Not sure why anyone has an issue with girls joining boy scouts. Its 2019, why are we still segregating?

Not a gender issue, its a person being dishonest issue, ya know, like when people pinky swear there not a thief, serial killer or rapist!

but it seems men are more scared about this than woman are, especially the religious ones.

It is very very very much a gender issue. You expressed an opinion. We are slam dunk talking about gender and as far as I am concerned changing ***sex is a misrepresentation.
Fine if you are on a desert island.
Not fine if you are mixing it up in so called society and flaunting your new body parts.

Sure, but you can't exclude the opinions unless you want to forfeit most of your debate..... Let's try to develops grounds of sensable reason

I disagree. It is a behavior. It is an exponent based upon a psychological experience of "feelings," (remember....those very things you don't want us to include in the course of our debate - they have no problem referring to their feelings).

Whoa! Hold up. You need to go back and read the thread. I'm sure you'll find it is you who has been very staunch when it comes to the issue of the female sports teams - I've only made the follow-up replies in response to those statements.

Why is that?
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With one exception to what you have stated, I fully agree, but, you're still missing some of the point.
I'm saying they are not women even on the psychological level - they're diluted into an act. It's an ongoing game of pretend and the maturity level of most transgendered is just about junior-high level.
Another thing you're over-looking is that the XY chromosome biologically includes the chemistry that supports the psychological construct of the male....
That's why it's an on-going game of pretend and it's one of the many reasons I really don't respect "pronoun re-assignment."

I think you're missing the over-all point. I have a right not to be misled physically or mentally. Guys understand all the nuances when it comes to their perceptions of women - I know what guys likes because I'm a guy (and for the most part) and he likes what I like.... I don't need him taking that kind of power and using it against me - there still exists a very real world where that sort of behavior would get someone killed.

And, I believe I listed an innumerable amount of people who I hold the door open for every day - and furthermore I don't believe I have to screen them....
"Sir.....are you a drug addict or wife abuser, because if you are, I just don't want to hold this door open on your account."
Or -
"Ma'am? Have you been a full on *****bitch today against your husband and kids, because if you have, I just don't want to hold the door open on your account."

That's not the way I am.

.....Because it's the BOY Scouts, not the "Boy and Girl Scouts", that's why. It's an issue because there is an all exclusive club for girls called "The Girl Scouts." The last time I checked, the Girl Scouts weren't selling 'Boy Scout cookies' (because there's no such thing as Boy Scout Cookies....)?

I think the real question is, why do some people think there should be NO differences between the sexes at all?

Tell me, why is it called, "The Battered Womens' Shelter," and not "The Battered Persons Shelter?"
(Please don't answer that).

The fact is it's a lie about ones gender. The two are inextrictable at this point.

"Scared." Like a frightened little girl waking up in the middle of a cold dark night from a bad dream?

....It more of less seems to me that people no longer care to read what God thinks or has done in the past, to entire cities and nations when they go to playing with things they ought not to.
God didn't burn Sodom and Gomorrah to the ground because the LGBT communities of that time were a good thing.
Yeah. Let's just ignore the Guy that has the power to condem one's soul to an eternity of bliss or outer darkness where the fire is not quenched nor the worm dies not.

I think the last few paragraphs hits the nail on the head.

God is the problem here. Your thoughts revolve around a 2000 year old idea which cannot ( in your mind) be in anyway wrong or different. God didn’t do any of what you mentioned. Lemme know when you catch up to 2019.

All in all I have never met a woman who has a problem with trans people

Wouldn't be easier to say that you just don't believe in the Bible rather than to say God didn't do any of that?
Because (not only)the Bible says He laid waste to those nations for their sexual lewdness, the fact is you can travel and visit those sites today. Furthermore, when the director tells you that "This is the site of Sodom," the chances are he won't be a Christian.
That was an event that many surrounding nations recorded when it happened - hello - there were no Christians at that time. Let me know when you get caught up with your basic theological homework.

....I don't think you get around much.

Just because it’s in a book, it doesn’t it real. Sure there’s a real place but at the end of the day the book was written by people. But so was Harry Potter

Allow me, for one instant, to mirror what you have said -

https://youtu.be/jH-mhZLuGRk

Just because it's in a video, doesn't make it real. Sure, there's a real Hindenburg but at the end of the day the video was reported and captured by people. But so was Alice in Wonderland.

The Bible is a written account of people's experience with God during an age when He allowed His works and judgements to be seen.

Tell the Sodomites who are burning in hell that it's all a work of fiction - convince them.

So why doesnt God allow his work to be seen now? Why has no one contributed to the book in the last at a guess 1000 years? im gonna use your tactic and say dont answer that.

Sometimes I present a question to represent reflection or irony. Often times it is misunderstood as a "real" question, so every now and then I'll say 'Don't answer that.'
But, it's good to see you already knew that.

1. Uhhhmmm....the Bible is a finished work. It's not a newspaper, magazine or Wiki page.

2. For the most part, His works are finished too. The real problem when it comes to seeing His works is due to OUR works of sin and the repercussions of consequence.
But time for that is even coming to an end. We don't have a God that is going to seemingly remain out of sight forever. The nights of evil have their number and this is the age we live in. The end.

And people thought the earth was flat for a long long time. And the earth revolves around the sun. Also not true. I wonder what else is not true?

What else is not true is a man claiming he is a women

I think it is up to them what they do. And it doesn’t matter what I think or don’t think. It is not up to another person to judge.

I recently came across these comments on Facebook....

“I'll be damned...THIS ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE!! READ IT...😮 these people are mental in what they’re doing!
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WHY LITTLE BOYS WANT TO BE GIRLS.....BECAUSE THEY ARE!

"Let me explain something to you all:
WI-38 is the cell lines from a FEMALE aborted fetus, used to cultivate viruses used in vaccines.

When you inject the DNA from a FEMALE (carrying two X chromosomes) into a MALE (who already carries one X chromosome and a weaker Y chromosome) you now have an overload of the X chromosome.

Now we have an onslaught of BOYS who think they should be GIRLS.

Do we have male DNA in vaccines? YES!

The MRC-5 is the code given to the fetal cell line also used to cultivate vaccine viral components, and it comes from a MALE aborted fetus.

Do we have girls thinking they are boys? YES!

Is it as prominent as boys wanting to be girls? NO!

Why? Because girls have two dominant X chromosomes.

When they are injected with a vaccine containing MRC-5, they aren't just getting a Y chromosome, but yet another dominant X chromosome, on top of the two they already have.

That's why you don't see as many girls wanting to be boys as you do the other way around.

The Baphomet is half-male, half-female, blurring the lines. He is in charge of those who are mandating vaccines...they either kill, maim, or confuse our society.

Nothing afflicting our children is our fault.
It's all damage from a spiritual battle that we are losing.

We had 3 shots given 50 years ago and 72 given today. When did society become gender confused?

Think about it."

Check what else might be in with the vaccines

Not sure how this could be looked at by anyone as safe?

IF YOU VACCINATE In the first 6 years of life your child receives the following:

•17,500 mcg 2-phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
•5,700 mcg aluminum (neurotoxin)
•Unknown amounts of fetal bovin serum(aborted cow blood)
•801.6 mcg formaldehyde (carcinogen, embalming agent)
•23,250 mcg gelatin (ground up animal carcuses)
•500 mcg human albumin (human blood)
•760 mcg of monosodium L-glutamate (causes obesity & diabetes)
•Unknown amounts of MRC-5 cells (aborted human babies)
•Over 10 mcg neomycin (antibiotic)
•Over 0.075 mcg polymyxin B (antibiotic)
•Over 560 mcg polysorbate 80 (carcinogen)
•116 mcg potassium chloride (used in lethal injection)
•188 mcg potassium phosphate (liquid fertilizer agent)
•70 mcg sodium borate (Borax, used for cockroach control)
•54,100 mcg of sodium chloride (table salt)
•Unknown amounts of sodium citrate (food additive)
•Unknown amounts of sodium hydroxide (Danger! Corrosive)
•2,800 mcg sodium phosphate (toxic to any organism)
•Unknown amounts of sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate (toxic to any organism)
•32,000 mcg sorbitol (Not to be injected)
•0.6 mcg streptomycin (antibiotic)
•Over 40,000 mcg sucrose (cane sugar)
•35,000 mcg yeast protein (fungus)
•5,000 mcg urea (metabolic waste from human urine)
•Other chemical residuals

How many of these ingredients are on the Prop 65 list?

(From the book, "What The Pharmaceutical Companies Don't Want You To Know About Vaccines" - By Dr Todd M. Elsner)

EDUCATE BEFORE YOU VACCINATE!!”

I personally don’t know enough about it to comment but I am interested in learning more when I am ready.

And with regards to religion. I believe in god. I have felt that since the bible was written by humans I feel that because humans are imperfect that the words may not be perfectly written as the exact words of god. But that they may have been written as their own interpretation of what they were asked to write.

And during translation the meanings may have been altered to some degree.

I believe that there are some really good points in the bible. But then I have felt unsure about some other points. So I have taken what I believe is true from the bible and left what I felt unsure of.

It is gods job to judge people, not mine. We all do it. It’s part of nature’s survival. But .. morals around it are questionable. But when it comes to sexuality I have thought, well I don’t see that it hurts anyone so live and let live.

Recently however I have come across some scientific information which has made me feel more open minded into learning more with regards to creationism. I am still not sure.

And I also came across some other scientific information which has made me think more when it comes to sexual activity stuff.... where as before I thought... well it’s not hurting anyone, so what’s the big deal? But now I can see there is a point to it.

And then these two points and then the info above on vaccines makes me feel abit more open minded to things in the bible that I had felt unsure on.

I’m still not completely sure. I haven’t made my mind up on what I believe yet as I need more time to look and learn more.

It makes me wonder if the vaccine info may be getting at something. What if toxins can affect this, then loads of things have potential to affects this. If toxins in heavy metals can alter DNA then there may be potential for other toxins to alter other DNA genes as well.

I think that there are people who try to follow through with his work. It just isn’t recognised as such. Jehovah’s witnessed try to share and show his work. But people see it negatively. Where as I see it that they are doing what they believe is the morally right thing to do and that they in their eyes are doing a loving thing. But people don’t see love, they see nuisance.

There are some good acts of his work being done, if that makes sense. It is often over looked by the media. Those who control the media want to control the public’s perceptions of reality and they do not often share the positive things being done in the world. At least it seems that way. They share more of the bad things.

Gunshots are louder than hugs and kisses.

As far as the comment about judging every single one of us judges. Even folks saying not to judge has formed a judgement.
Its impossible not to judge.
Maybe people need to take stands because right now everything and anything gets an ok. I think a man feeling like a girl and actually being a girl are 2 seperate things but what do I know.

Also no one who is born with a *****penis can say what it feels like to be a women.

And baring in mind that psychological issues are also affected by physiology. And that if we took care of the physical/physiological issues then we could better deal with psychological struggles.

I think this is your opinion

I agree

I would not want to be the one to take sides as people have committed suicide over being judged over sexuality. people judging me (not over sexuality) has affected me a lot so I wouldn’t want to do it to others. I mean I’m not perfect and never will be. But I try really hard to understand. I make a conscious effort to try and do what I think is right

I have experienced and seen deception amongst the medial profession with research before so I know that good drs can get hounded out. I believe what was said about vaccines causing autism. It’s absolutely possible.

After experiencing the effects of research data being manipulated through flawed methodology to try and produce the desired results, I believe it could very likely happen in other areas too. People sometimes have a hidden agenda that will benefit them in some way. Not all people have moral standards and they can abuse their position of power. Knowledge is power and not everyone has the knowledge to understand and many trust blindly because they don’t have the knowledge and trust those who do will not abuse their power.

I believe that the vaccine autism thing was one example of this.

I’d advise doing your own research. It can be a real pain in the arse having to do own research but as knowledge is power, and because only the strongest survive, it is a survival tactic to become aware. To research deeply with a very open mind and then putting all the pieces together to make your own mind up.

Trust yourself to do the research. A lot of research out there gets over looked too... I might be going off topic now I’m not sure...

You have never seen the earth from the vantage point of outer space and you never will. Who are you putting your faith into when it comes to what you believe?

So many forks in this road...

I like my information straight from the horse itself, so to speak. I would rather believe in something that is farfetched than so-called "reputable" sources who spoon feed you only what they want you to believe in.
You don't seem to escape an overstuffed box of flippant people who thinks it's a joke when someone tells them that there are carefully laid (and very evil) plans that are thousands of years old - no, it's not wisdom, it's not a warning - no - it's a joke.
The note upon which the days of scoffing laughter will end will be a sad note...for many. Why be one of those people.
.....First, the smile runs away as the brain tries to reason the cognitive dissonance of which the eyes are beholding. The heart can't decide between cardiac arrest or subatomic detonation. The lungs trip and forget how to breath in. The pupil of The eyes are fully dilated and black. The capillaries in the whites are neon red and many veins have burst - such will be for many in the day of the Lord.
And I will have earned the right to laugh in their faces.

Well by your lords standards i will be forgiven wont i?

Im not sure where your logic has gone. Surely you can see that a thousand year old book is the one that is farfetched?

the egyptians are even old than this, should we still live by the book of the dead? what makes the bible true and not the book of the dead?

do you believe the earth is flat?

Not at this rate. By saying, "your lord" you have rejected that He is your Lord also.

Several things going on here -
The Bible is a collection of works. Each work, in this case, (mostly) comes from a different period of time. Some of the accounts of Genesis can be up to 6 or 7 thousand years old (hence found in what is called "The Old Testament" of the Bible.) The ones that involve who we know as 'Jesus' (Christ incarnate) are found in the "New Testament" of the Bible and are just around 2,000 years old.
With this said, the problem you have is thinking that we are living in a period of shining intellect. That, as you go back in time, mankind gets stupider and stupider. Or that there is no such thing as real history at all and therefore can be dismissed as fiction. I gotta tell ya, there's no logic at all when it comes down that kind of thinking.
You think we live in the most advanced time in human history - you have no idea the position you put yourself into when you think like that. We live in the junkyard of civilization. Don't you get it? Where'd your logic go, what's it doing for you right now?
....Highly advanced technology has ALWAYS existed. We only live in a time when portions of it are mass produced and structured in such a way that the common idiot can use it.
Not so long ago, technology and knowledge was kept as privlidge by the most powerful and elite - the rich.....just as it is today.

By the fact that many nations have documented their account of the Biblical experience. (I'm saying that rather poorly).

The Bible has the account of Isreal being captive slaves of the Egyptians for 400 years. Big deal, right? The Egyptians kept excellent records - they documented their captives (the Isrealites) and the God they believed in.
Other nations (minor nations) also have their account these matters - go tell them it was all a work of fiction.

Should I say yes so you can have a laugh? I would say I have a good enough reason to believe that it isn't the shape that has been taught for only 500 years of human history (the Copernican heliocentric model of the earth).
Most of my conclusion is based on the idea that I do not believe that "we" ever went to the moon.

I never laugh at people’s beliefs.

But I just can’t follow your logic and reasoning.

I don’t think you know what the book of the dead is. But it doesn’t really matter either way.

Just because the bible has historical reference, it doesn’t make it written by god. Sure the writings can be true. It can document events and the social norms of the day. It still doesn’t mean it is written by god or in gods words.

Like you said it was written thousands of years ago. Things have progressed a bit. Even the Vatican realised they were wrong and that the earth is round and orbits the sun.

I just can’t believe in god like you can’t not believe in god. (Sorry for the double negative here)

At this point I really don’t think there is anything we will agree on.

If a man wants to become a woman, or vice versa, it’s really none of my business. It’s their life and I have way too much on my plate to sit around judging people for living their lives the way they want to.

Anyone who is different, like the LGBTQ crowd, must have a reason to have chosen the path they’re on. So if you’re a transgender person, I feel for you. Misunderstood by some, hated by a lot, it’s a hard life to live.

I say, leave people alone and don’t impose your beliefs on others. Live your best life and stop worrying so much about how others are living theirs.

Oh and can people hold open the door for others regardless of who it is, please it’s not that hard. :/

In the event you didn't read my follow up in the thread -

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I agree - it is hard. Like removing an engine from a car with a can opener.

- Then -

- I agree, but tell that to them. When they (not me) are the ones shoving their lifestyle down my throat, it becomes my business. When the issue of these minorities changes policies of entire governments, it cannot be left alone.
When was the last time you attended a "Straight Pride" parade? Who is exactly imposing their beliefs on you in this case?

Im sure you are quite welcome to organise straight pride. Alternatively, gay pride also welcome straight people, why not join in and party with everyone?

Do you think that minorities shouldnt fight for their rights to be included in society?

Or is it that we have had a status quo, everyone knows there place and accepts it, for so long that change is scary? And the 'dominant' group is now a little less dominant?

Well, if I'm welcome to organize a straight pride parade, why haven't you already done it? Surley, your noble stance in defense of the trans/gay community is equally enthusiastic when it comes to your own....

Of course they would welcome anyone who fortifies their power.

Yes, of course, let's take power from our own then stab them in the back. Let's cross the protest line and give it ALL to them.

Sure I do, but from what rare race (or species) does a transgender, spawn? Because these things aren't "minorities" they are mentalities.

There is something called a "biological standard." whether you want to regard God or 'evolution,' nature gives you that which is between your legs.
You talk about "knowing your place" as if it were some bad thing - it's the only point that truly exists in which anything can get done.
And for the most part, man operated under this assumption without interruption from the 'Department of Special Needs' and got ****shit done with a degree of effectiveness. But now, you can't clock in at 9 and hope to make it to 5 without commodating to someone who has perverted the biological standard nature gave them.
As for power, give an inch take a mile. I have no confidence in their power redistribution plan as they "grow as a community."

The 'biological standards' are actually social hierarchies formed by generations before us. Theyre starting to unravel.

Elders are no longer in charge, young people have voices and opinions which can be aired easily and loudly. They have the power to influence change.

The generations before us would rather things continue as they always would. Men in charge, women stay at home and look after the kids. The youth respect the elders. And it doenst happen anymore. We are more equal. There is more acceptance. I dont know why there is anything wrong with that.

I dont disagree that being transgender is a mental issue. But not enough is known about it just yet. Perhaps like being gay, being transgender cannot be changed.

Being born in the wrong body must be a horrible feeling. Not feeling comfortable with yourself, hating everything to do with the gender you were born as. If we can help people love themselves, then why shouldnt we?

Or are you only worried about yourself and how YOU feel?

?!WTF!?😂😂😂
Yes, the double helix parades around in a plush, velvet, cape of purple, wearing a crown.
Male Voice: "I am of the highest order!"
Female Voice: "Only after I've given you permission!"

Trans Voice: "Ay, babeyyyy - what you two be doin tonight?"

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No.

They call it "Gay Pride." Do you know why? Because pride picks you up and keeps you going no matter how wrong you are. You never return to the former argument because what you brought to the table couldn't feed a gnat, so you just keep going forward and on and on.

Pay close attention.

There are only two genders in the human race. Male and female....period.

If this simple, biologically predetermined, factor is the reason for generating "sexual confusion," then it doesn't take rocket science to see how much more confusing it's going to get when the rest of the alphabet falls into place....

"Doc, doc! I got this dick between my legs! What does it mean!?"

"Son' it means you're a man."

".....Oh....."

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Yes. Long lived and beloved values that have preserved life and FLOURISHED life, generation after generation are being spat upon -

(Hey....when the Burka comes over your head and the veil across your face, don't come crying to me. Loving those old fashion values will be too late.)

Naw - I'm good. I got a dick and you don't.

Burkas are old fashioned values, and im not sure what they have to do with anything.....

If you want we can keep flogging the same dead horse of the argument, but
I'm kinda bored of it, we're not going to agree....

If you want to bring god into it. he crated man and woman. men created the hierarchy of who seems to be more important, and just because its in a book it doesnt mean jack ****shit. Show me the proof and I will change my attitude, until then, the sky fairy is all in your mind.

This is why I'm happy to beat a dead horse. I'm honestly trying to put these examples at a level you can understand...but you're spoiled and you're under the impression that that spoil will never cease. You apparently don't understand the meaning "lesser of the two evils."
You need to snap awake. You *****bitch, moan, groan and complain about the Christian patriarchy - which by the way is responsible for nearly every invention and monumental feat ever accomplished in the whole history of man - upon this you spit. Fine.
There's a Patriarch comming for you, sweetie, unlike anything you're familiar with. And the way people act when their feet are in shoes as opposed held to a red hot plate of iron is like night and day.
You will be looking to me (an obvious example) to solve your problems with them.
And from your response in this thread, what do you represent - every female who has walked on, trampled on, spit on, good men with traditional Christian core values.... Transvite ain't gonna rescue you - their heads will decorate your city corners on every street.
You want oblivion - congratulations - you got it. You'll be a wife yet, among a herium of captured women where all your dreams will come true.

No. This is a lie you tell yourself. Proof is basic and it's been presented in numerous way from numerous people with varying degrees or care - you are where you're at. I'm fine with that - as a fact, I'm more comfortable with it than you are - I insist you stay right where you're at. The look on your face is going to be priceless when the Burka drops.

Its become quite clear that it doesn't matter what I say, you will still attempt to be patronising and condescending. Its also clear that you despise women, as well as people who are not like you.

Its extremely arrogant, and laughable to think that christian patriarchy is responsible for 'nearly every invention and monumental feat ever accomplished in the whole history of man'

Still not sure what the obsession with burkas are... either way i would rather die than be oppressed by any religion. And thats only because i have rarely seen anyone be improved by being in any way religious (theres actually only 1 person i can think of). you say your religious, yet you appear with a disgusting, elitist, discriminatory attitude, everything your so called religion teaches against.

Ok Im out, you keep flogging your dead horse.

1. No one really likes a mirror of true reflection.

You just don't bother researching anything do you? You just argue to spite the truth. You vomit words like a bulimic vomits food. Are you a Patented inventor? Does your country recognize officially recognize and represent your creation? Are you "religious?" Have you studied the increase of invention since 1900 to 1950 to see what ethnicities they are tied to? (White European/western male). WITH A PERCENTAGE OF MINORITY SO THIN IT'S NOT WORTH THE EFFORT TO MENTION! So pardon me if I don't promenade all you "feel gooders."

I have not lived as long as I have; Been around the world, Knowing what I know and accomplish what I have accomplished, to be told that everything I represent is ****shit at every turn, by one who hasn't even made the door.

Just because you're too dense to figure it out, doesn't make what I said 'obsessive.'
(I'll try again and see if you get it).
Either way, get to dying if that's the case. Governments and nations are largely built and ran by the order of men, their consideration and the consensus' they acknowledge.
Saying this makes no mention of the most important and vital element - the spiritual drive in men (aka, their religion).
You seem well preserved by the religion of your government. Not to mention unbridled privilege.
Just want to take this moment to remind you how disgusting that is according to you. It took a lot of discrimination to give you the privilege to drive and vote and to be seen with an open face (or hardly with any clothes on at all, if you like).
You made a noise but did none of the killing or dying. Making a noise might get something done (the way an old hen nags her man into doing something), but the noise makers don't really put their hand to it.

.....Emm, no. The Bible pretty much make a it's own exclusive claims. And there's a reason why it discriminates.

You see, were here at the edge of the cliff and there's no more road. Nothing but vast open sky.
You seem to think that actual states of holyness do not exist. That there is nothing genuinely sacred, and certainly nothing can be pure according to your mentality.
Considering you despise Biblical faith it's not surprising you can't appreciate the world given to you upon the back of the Patriarchy.

You mean like Marie curie, Ann tsukamoto, grace hopper, Rosalind Franklin, Stephanie kwolek and Shirley Jackson. A few women there that have laid foundations to some of the greatest things in history.

And if you think your patented toothbrush is in their league then you truly are cuckoo. How much have you made from that? Sweet FA is my guess. But sure, paint yourself as one of those mighty white Christian men who think they own the world. Anyone can get a patent as long as it’s different from other things. It doesn’t mean it’s a good idea

Interestingly in the uk we have had two female prime ministers, a female first minister, the queen, head of police and fire are also both female.

Also the sufferegettes fought and died for women to vote. If I was in that time, I would have joined them.

I wonder what the reason is for the magic books discrimination. Hmmm? Control perhaps? You betchya.

And finally, you believe the earth is flat so you can’t really call me dense now can you? Lmfao.

Never said there weren't brilliant women. Saying that given a 1-to-1 ratio, men out invent women up to 95%. And like I said, until you do your research, I stand by my original statement.
And if it's so damn easy to get a Patent then try getting one. It shouldn't be that hard. I'm sure you have more ideas (and better ones too) than a kid with a box of TicTacs.

I never said it was - that's an assumption you made to continue the vilification of my character - a strawman.
I've invented other things that I'll never seek patenting for because in this day and age only certain groups are allowed all the fun (but that's a different issue).

Really? You will never be able to take that statement to a higher level.
The question of success is not a matter of 'if' but "when." A good thing is worth perusing and I never gave up. So....good luck with what you have going for yourself.

Nothing you say here is a question of paint. I AM a white, male, Christian. I own property, pay taxes and have a relative degree of status. I'm not dependant on others regarding the conventional sense of things.

So, let me agree. With that said I have a bad idea? Lol!

Sure. Lot's of women in seats of power. Same over here (and maybe even more). Your problem is you assume I have a problem with this - that's been your mistake the whole way through this.
...But, those positions have been made available only in recent history.

Well....if I could invent a time portal that would ensure your arrival to said historical period, I'd push you through, myself. You'd certainly be fighting for a better cause than the one your fighting for now.

Those "magic" books are the very reasons for the freedoms you have today. They are the reason why even your country has been so historically great and honoring women with status and privilege.
It really goes to show how much you know of those "magic books" and the "sky god" by which the men of your country have historically honored.

I do? First, that's not what I said and (secondly, as usual) you completely ignored what I did say.
One last time for the record; when I review all the events of the "moon landings" and other space-related events, I'm less inclined to believe that we live on a ball spinning through space.
Since I have not seen the earth from the vantage point of space with my own two eyes, I'm still not going to believe or trust in sources that are known liars.
Now that you're laughing your ***ass off -
You will now need to edit a certian reply that you made to me back at a certain Post, to at least maintain your honesty.

You know what slash? I want to say thank you.

This toxic thread has opened my eyes to something within me.

This thread would have ended many many replies ago if either of us could just let it go.

And it’s something I really struggle with in life. Letting things go, usually in the form of over thinking but obviously here too otherwise I wouldn’t keep checking notifications everyday.

I realised that I need to let go of a lot more things. I need to let go of the past. I’m a different person now In so so many ways. I’m an entirely different woman to the girl that ended up here. I’m happy, I’m bettering myself, I’m independent. And I don’t wish to be in such a negative environment.

I’m gonna let this go.

I think you’re wrong and that’s the last thing I will say. I won’t be checking replies again. I won’t be replying anymore.

I just hope you manage to find some love and acceptance of people who are different to you. The world isn’t as sinister as you think it is. Maybe you think that’s what I choose to believe. And so what if it is. If it brings peace and happiness to me then it’s all that matters. I’m not gonna argue the toss with someone about it.

I hope you find peace too.