YES

ur not the first

absolutely

Yes!!!

Yes. It is a occurrence for everybody. It is how you decide to deal with it that counts. If you wake up feeling defeated that nothing will change you are wrong. Completely wrong.

this isnt life, this is a dream or more a nightmare.

Definitely. Would you like to tell us what's going on? What has led up to these feelings? Perhaps venting will help, and perhaps there is some advice to offer.

when it comes to a point the mind starts to figure what the point is all of this, how do we justify our existence? what am i here for.. and why do i live such a philosophical conundrum

i've grown. old enough to know that life goes on. ( ok maybe not that old ) even at the finest edge where we find ourselves wondering where time went

yet there is much to learn even when we believe we felt and had it all.

in the routine we feel entrapped all for the cause of discipline hoping it will promise us a stability that we despise chaos. funny thing tho..

in our content, chaos is what brings us together again.

bs is inevitable.. nothing will be perfect.. ( my excuse is because other people fk up ur perfect ideas/plans )

The area in my backyard is a point of meteor impact, the power from the blow of whatever hit there was sufficient enough to pack the elements in the surrounding area into a tighter, stronger rock formation then over years corrosion slowly ate away the weaker rock damaged and not compacted by the hit. also, I have no idea what I'm talking about and im also insane.

Rock formation? Do you remember the band's name?

:( sorry you are feeling like it.

Have you got some health issues? Money issues? Toxic parents? Abusive partner? A bully boss? Are you homeless..?

i have all those issues plus toxic pressident

i have no income no opportunities stuck in the worst place and situation on earth

Oh, i am so sorry :( i don't think i'd be able to do anything about the president other than pray.. but do you think you could start doing something about the other issues? One thing at a time? To find help and support as they are all quite big ones to solve on one's own?

i try to do stuff but nothing works theres not much i can do anyway i dont even have no degree

i dont hate waking up, i hate the way my life is right now, its a nightmare but yeah hate waking up to this life, the way it is right now

:( your situation is not easy and you will need lots of motivation to tackle it.

I dont have a degree either. There are well paid jobs without a degree. Or maybe you could get a degree..?

What would you like to do? What would you like your life to be like? Isn't there even one thing you could do?

Well sorry to hijack the OP's post but yeah I'd like to finish a degree in a different field than the one i dropped out of but i've got no funding and it takes money to solve problems so i cant do much as ive got no money

You can't do any job at all until you save up for your degree? :(

well my health is in the pits too and i want to leave this city i am in but i can get a job in another bad city which is slightly better than here but really you know they prefer grads and post grads in jobs

I worked for years as a domestic cleaner just because i had mental health issues and nobody would hire me. And i cycled to work, too.

My brother works as a gardener and gets paid twice as much as people with a degree doing an avearage office job..

I'd like to add that degrees aren't all they're cracked up to be. My partner got his degree and minors with it and the only job that would have him doesn't even require any degree at all - (security job, pays ~$12 an hour) and it doesn't seem that hard to land a job like that, just have to get a security certification (which is very easy to get). Even once you have your degree, most companies want people with about 3 or more years experience in the field with the degree. So we're screwed fresh out of college. The shift is also happening to require masters degrees instead of bachelors, the bachelors degree is becoming insignificant.

I'm getting a degree too, a few months from finishing, and honestly, it's been a huge waste of money (even though I love the field and what I could do with it - there are very limited jobs on the market, especially with the US presidency determined to take away jobs in the field I was planning for).

The way to go is certifications. Try to get any job, my first job was in retail starting at $8.25/hr and worked up to almost $10/hr - you can save some money up and apply to a community college if you have such things around. They're a lot cheaper and you can try to apply for federal aid (or save up enough money before starting so you don't collect debt). At community colleges there are a lot of certifications you can get in areas that are in demand.

I quit my job in retail for two reasons, I was starting an internship I needed for my degree and the other reason is mental health. It was worth it for the time being, getting that extra cash.

Any job will do, really, just find one that doesn't add to the mental health issues. Also, some companies treat you more human than others. Walmart doesn't care one bit for their employees, at least their low-wage associates. My partner tried to get a position with them first and he hated it so much. Our relationship suffered so much even though he could only stand working there about 2 weeks.

You can also try finding something therapeutic? Dog-walking, pet-sitting? Gardening is also very therapeutic if you'd like to offer gardening services around the neighbourhood (although, you'd need to learn a few things before trying that).

One other thing. If you get an entry level job in a field you'd like to go further in or with a company you'd like to work with. Once you've been working there a while, you can apply to be trained to be promoted, some companies will pay for your studies to advance.

i'm not in america. here you dont have those kinda jobs or comm. college plus my parents hate me and arent supportive at all n pretty toxic. sorry OP

i have physical health issues too and i'm not the "right" color and religion they prefer around here

I am sorry about your physical issues. Im a 'bloody foreigner' in UK also. I have a strong Eastern European accent, too, and people dont understand me.. And could name other issues - like being a single mother etc.

If you want excuses, and to feel sorry for yourself, then you can find many reasons to do that! I tent to wallow in selfpity, so know that it gets you nowhere..

I am sorry you are finding it hard and are not motivated to fight more. But i hope that you will soon and wish you all the best xx

Which country are you in? Do you still depend on your parents? Im sorry you have that extra burden of them being toxic. :(

uae. It is one of the countries to fly planes into wtc.

yeah i still depend on them because this place really sucks and other reasons like domestic disturbance/violence etc. them being super toxic sure is a burden

i've been to the uk few years ago, it has too many muslims and some other problems but at least it still beats uae in so many areas

i understand but in the middle east you wouldnt last a minute its a nasty place and i'm not wallowing in self pity just stating real reasons

You are right - i wouldnt last there a minute! :( so is there any hope, any solution to improve your situation?

i should start a new post but no, no hope. ive been considering suicide cause i cant bear the abuse being given to me by parents, relatives, cults, religions et al

:( i dont blame you for considering suicide..

At the moment i am not the best ambasador for Christ, but would you consider giving your life to Him instead of taking it? :(

He can make a way where there is no way!

Is there anyway you can go to the UK again? Do you have a job you can save up money and get out of the living situation with your parents?

Or even other family you can live with while you try to figure out your life?

no other family, most of them hate me and prefer my parents anyway. no got no one else i can live with :(

thx Mya. Ive tried that giving my life to Christ it didnt work for me and the only church here is a bad one that isn't progressive or cool and acts like my dad didnt do anything bad when he did. i've even written you know to christian networks, tried giving my life to christ online and none of it worked which is why i dont recommend that way to others. i tried it not once but several times and it didnt work for me. it doesnt work for so many people. as for christ he's a "dont look at her or youll go to hell" boogeyman anyway... no offense to believers just stating my views

well no not really they were okay with me when i went last but very abusive to me now so yeah no money to go there with and looking at the problems in uk with high crime/terror rate and radical muslim london mayor, its not the ideal place to go to for me right now

Guys i really should start a new post but dont know what to put or if theres even a point given how hopeless the situation is and how would you know its me?

nope no job, no degree and dont wanna live in dubai anyway even without parents

Oh, I am really so sorry that giving your life to Christ did not work for you! :((( I am far from an expert, but have you tried just talking to Jesus? Not using any prescribed formulas or church liturgy etc. Just talk to Him with your heart; tell Him about your situation and how unhappy you are and would need help; and that you really want to give your life to Him if He can show you if there is anything in the way (maybe a sin to repent from..?).

You write that Jesus is '"dont look at her or youll go to hell" boogeyman'.

Well, firstly it is not quite right - Jesus does not want anyone to go to hell. If there are any rules or laws, these are purely for our good (like highway laws, for example. If everyone drove the way they wanted, there would be a chaos and lots of accidents. So, the rules are for our benefit rather than our restriction.)

Secondly, even if you struggle to keep the rules, that's why there is Jesus there! You go to Him, tell Him what you struggle with and He will give you help and grace to overcome it.. (which often is not instant, and may take years! I personally had a few 'overnight' transformations, and on the other hand, I have been struggling with the same sin over and over and over for decades.. If I was not attempting to follow Christ, I am sure I would have started some polygamous cult where women would have multiple husbands! Yep, i would be very capable of something like that.. ;)

I really hope that there will be light and hope in your situation! Although, practically, i do not know what else to suggest, i am sorry :( hug!

If you have a partner, do you trust your partner of demand him/her to produce constant proof of love and trust etc.? Why would you expect it from God? He does not owe us anything! It is us who need Him..

I wish God did not exist.. I would speed all the time; I would certainly rob a bank - not for money, but for the thrill of it; I would take drugs and drink booze, have ***sex with as many people as I could.. and I know I would love all those things. Oh, I would also enjoy killing a man or a few.. Please, do convince me that God does not exist! xx

Anon, (am on my phone, so hard to answer your whole reply) - God would not ask anyone to kill!

And don't judge God based on my morality, or the lack of it, please. I have a thing for evil (won't even mention falling for the most evil and messed up guys around); and for me it is a daily battle to try to resist it..

Why is that, i dont know; but not all Christ's followers are burdened in this way!

And btw, if you don't believe in God, why did you call on Him (in your post) ?!?

There are some with no moral compass, 'needing' laws and guidance to put them in place. I believe the majority don't need a belief system to tell them that hurting another creature is bad (except everyone blindly pays for animals to be killed and placed on their plates every day).
I wish "thou shalt not harm any living creature" was a commandment, but "thou shalt not kill" should have sufficed.

I have a lot of respect for eastern religions who actually live by such morals, that they don't kill to eat.

What is real? You trust your eyes to give you reality? Im not very educated, but human eyes are limited in their vision. Many animals see a spectrum bigger than a human eye can.

My God is real for me because He changed my heart! And is changing my thoughts and actions too (a bit too slow for my liking).

My God is real because when i call on Him (in prayer), He answers! No, i dont have auditory halucinations - He answers my prayers!

Anyway, i don't want to convince you about His existence - i want you to convince me about His non existence! Please! What evidence is there for His non existence?

Bible does not say that eating animals is bad/sinful - yet, i dont eat animals!

However, is killing the only way one can harm or be harmed?!

Are you my ex?! :D

I stopped eating meat after 30 years eating it.. You can ask Papa up there for help with that if you want to stop, you know?! ;)

Love you, too.. (but only because my Papa commanded me to) xx

:D whoa, so you are my ex!

How did you even find me on here; can't you find your way to my place?! ;)

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Ehm, sorry, what did you say?! ;)

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I've got my laptop back.. let the battle, ehm, conversation continue!!! With love, of course ;)

So, are you still SO SICK of waking up..?

hug accepted... i just think i need something other than the jesus thing you know something more catering to me as an individual and thanks for trying to help me but really last time proselytyzing used to not be allowed on the site and no offence its just that different ppl need different things

Meditation? Religious or not, it’s said to help for many things. You have to start small of course. First five minutes day or 10 and work your way up - most people feel a significant change in their lives from carrying on and doing it consistently. You won’t be able to think of ‘nothing’ but choose a word or a phrase to focus on, I usually choose a mantra the Buddhists use, or make something up in another language. You basically just repeat it over and over for the time allotted (sit or stand comfortably, even lie down) - meditation is with the mind.
If your mind starts to wander, just go back to the focus.

Doesn’t need to be every day either, set a few days in the week, try to keep it around the same times as well, it will eventually become a habit and you’ll feel the effects.

Also, perhaps make a list with things wrong in your life that makes it seem so awful - put aside what cannot be changed, for the rest, figure out what can be changed and list a few steps to get there. It’s possible to make some positive changes if you’re willing to take action.
Even a few improvements here and there make a difference in the way we feel about life and ourselves.
My life was miserable without a cat and I knew I needed her, but my living situation wouldn’t allow it and then money wouldn’t allow it, but once I was in a place that allowed a pet, I got her even though I wasn’t sure I could afford it, and my life improved with that. I’ve always known what I needed, sometimes we have to just work towards making it a reality.
Of course there are other things I need, like therapy and other ‘life’ things, but I can work towards that slowly.
Do you have a support network? Family/friends that you can go to in times of need?

Oh, okay, sorry, I did not mean to proselytyze.. :/ Don't know what else to suggest in hopeless situations. I do hope that you will find a positive way to move forward xx

i'm trying but the situatiion is hopeless and i am helpless... i will start a new thread and put your name in it so you can helpme there ive already ruined the op's post lol

I'm tired of the same sick bullshit i really am... somethings gotta give

:( ok xx