I see no clear path to a honest conversation on this subject. Especially when you tied so many hands from the start.

So, one is to tell how to fix what is wrong without including any feelings or experiences on the subject. Hmmmm
You are after a clinical take?

And it is to happen silently!?

In the dark . . in the corner. . in the very place we left it?

Not really much of a hopeful conversation soco

I dont know.....

My view of it is that men cannot be trusted alone. And yes I know its not ALL men, but ive been in the position myself. I spoke out and was completely ostracized at work because of it. I wouldnt do it again.

I dont think this will stop it. And I think it has just resulted in public shaming of people. It will all blow over, all these men have had to do (In weinstein and spaceys case) is say that theyre 'seeking help'

The truth is this:
Men seek to procreate.
Women do the same but with conditions for a proper nest.
There is a chase, both to and from the set conditions

One must consent first, and be later chased

Truth, women have all control of the universe

No! I am saying we all have a story to tell.

And right there is the whole point.
As humans, we reach out, we embrace . .
But there are always those that will twist your words. Melt you into a phrase.
Beware of simple word play.

With such a delicate topic (though, it really shouldn't be, as the crimes of it are shameful and should be shamed, as far as I'm concerned), I'll try my best to contribute as plainly as I can.

I think more needs to be done with taking complaints seriously. Due to the lack of justice and cases being seen as "not a big deal" in quite a few areas of the law, it provides a smoke screen, and a level of anxiety to those who fear coming forward. "It wasn't ****rape, so they're not going to care." "I don't have marks or bruises, so they won't believe me without evidence." "I shouldn't have been drinking" and on and on...

Victims who are hesitant or are unwilling to speak up can see that trying to go for help in their situation of harassment of any form can be seen as a "Case by case" circumstance, and personally, I think that is worst approach. It is trivializing some forms, and making others more "important" when really, the more you ignore, or brush aside something that is more "trivial", the more it can build into that more "important" act of crime.

I'd like see stuff such as conversations about having funded self-defense classes for children, teens, and adults. Entire modules to students on consent culture and why a person's personal space and body is important. I'd like to see instances where physical self-defense isn't just the only way to protect oneself. I'd like to see conversations where self-awareness and safety exit strategies (that I begun to learn while doing my Krav Maga training).

I'd like to see those who are convicted of crimes get harsher punishments and no more "probation", "suspended sentence" or "community service" as a part of their sentencing.

And less excuses being accepted for the next -G-d forbid- Brock Turner.

So what is your point soco?
Are we to speak or are we meant to pay $20

but nothing does happen with mass shootings, what has changed since navada? or florida before that? nothing....

nickleback? they are disgusting

and unfortunetly yes it will be forgotten, just like everything else, but the women will remember

All my male friends dont abuse women animals or xhildren. Pretty humble group. The freakers who do this should be hung by their balls. They ruin it for all of us

Didn't read all the replies, so this may have been mentioned....
While I do think it is great that these women are coming forward, I have to say that its mostly high profile perps and victims. Its a step in the right direction in that it raises awareness and makes perps think that a victim "might be more likely to use her voice...." but at the present time, I don't see much changing for "regular everyday women..." hopefully the trend will continue and encompass women from all walks of life

The good guys need to stand up to the bad guys. Like the bicyclists who stumbled upon the ****rape behind a dumpster and chased the guy.... no names. Perp doesn't need more notoriety

R.a.p.e

This issue falls under a subclassification of the battle between the sexes.

There are agenda driven people you don't want on your side.

When I say "everyone needs to know their place," I am not making a command directive, I am saying take a look at which rung of the ladder certain "victims" are standing upon. Do they truly represent you?

I find there are no victims when it comes to Hollyweird, politics and the media. It is an unspoken understanding of what is involved on these rungs. It is an evil, roiling, seethpot. It is the ultimate alter of sacrifice, and does not represent the ills of common society.

😒What needs changed? 😒What needs solving?

😡Choose perp (male target).
👿Point State empowered finger.
😈Speak the incantation, "Him."
💀It's a done deal.💀

☝All men know this. 💪Some women more than others.

💰There is a mindset of insationable determination that drives the careers of many people. They will do anything to get the job/position/title - if they are willing to f#(# their way to the top they've already resigned to endure some abuses. The real angst😠 begins when the efforts end in failure with nothing to show. Being a victim is an afterthought in these cases and not one minute before.😇

" 50% of all men " is an oxymoron. It implies that regardless of the percentage, it will always turn out to include ALL men.
Did you mean "50% of men?"
....because a majority of men would rather grab a wild dog by the ears before being 😦alone in the presence of a female....
Men already know we're at the, "😱He looked at me,😱" point...which is a little further along in the game than "groping and inappropriate touch."
Should castration of the eyes be a consideration for men\boys who eye-****rape? How do you distinguish that from men who are generally looking at you? Should the male lower his eyes or keep them closed altogether?
What process should be undertaken for those men/boys who fantasize about women/girls without their permission?
Don't these considerations also go along with the "broader terms?"

Have to agree on that one. ^^
Not to be insensitive, but there is actually a rising opposite problem.

Are you a woman? Did a MAN at the checkout stand not give you a discount when you asked him to?

Point a finger and accuse him of trying to molest you. That will show him. Now his life is ruined forever. He’s all over the media as a sexual assaulter, and now EVEN IF he’s found as innocent (Which wouldn’t happen if we stop asking for evidence), that media coverage has lost him his job and you think he’s going to be able to find another one any time soon? Wrong.

Sound exaggerated? So is many of the other statistics, but they get people riled up, which causes people to band together, and then more and more people believe the statistics.

Unfortunately, the people who are the “problem” are much more visible than the ones who are not. Just like shooters- people think anybody with a gun is a bad guy, but if you actually look at how many people that legally own guns shoot other people? It’s essentially 0. It goes the same way- how many times have you seen on the news “Let’s praise this man because he has NEVER harmed or sexually assaulted a woman.” - I’ll take a bet and say never. Not because it doesn’t happen, but because people only look at people that cause problems, and then think that’s the only type of person in the world.

The problem: How do determine a false accusation vs a real assault?
And like Big Al pointed out- the definition of assault has changed drastically over time. Innocent men are afraid their elbow might brush against the BARE SKIN of the arm of a woman on the Subway and they’ll be arrested for assault.

Not all men are good, or innocent. But neither are women, unfortunately. We’re all people and some people are bad, regardless of gender. So you can’t just arrest a man because a woman said he did something bad.

I wish we lived in a world where we could trust what somebody said just like that- but in that world, we probably wouldn’t have the initial problem anyway.

It's been a year of false abuse allegations and being acused of being a nazi just for being white, male and from nordic descend.

Honestly i grow ever more distrustful of women in general and have begun avoiding both friend and relationships because of this. Too much of a chance to shake a hornets nest.

2017 will go down for me like the year the sheer act of existing for me was considered a crime against society.

-Legion

Just a note. When a wpmen is in an abusive relationship there are shelters conseling funds and thats great. Guess what. If a guy is in an abusive relationship there is 0 help. 0.... in fact the police would laugh at this.good guys have it tuff. Also. Why are you gals still going for the bad boy. You know thats where the trouble is. You know you always pass up the nice guy. Why do this in 2017?

well weeks ago my neighbour thought just because he's rich, loaded, used to work for the council and has a great big fancy car he was invincible enough to put his hand on my bum. Little did he expect the police to go round his house as a result of me telling them.

He certainly is never that happy now to see me whenever I bump into him. Only himself to blame lol

I agree 100%

Well I sent him a message telling him I didn't want to talk to him anymore before the police intervened. I made the decision I didn't want to take it to court as I've wanted to get on with my life plus there is a lack of evidence anyway. Me and the police officer I spoke too both agreed he would deny the allegations before she interviewed him, which of course he did.

He doesn't talk to me anymore which is what I want anyway. I'm glad I can go for my walks down the road I live in in peace.

I have sons, too. And I honestly do feel as if I have to be direct and shocking to get the point across that their lives could VERY EASILY be ruined.
However, i have encountered sexual ABUSE many times from a very early age (7). And that doesn't include the verbal abuse and/or harassment that has also happened often.
My daughter, in 3rd grade, had her pants pulled down on the playground by a boy who "liked" her. Soon after that, all my kids were homeschooled. Even so, I found out that my 16 and 12 year old sons.... along with my daughter who was 14 at the time... were at the park right out our backyard and a boy there (who all my kids knew) walked up to my daughter, touched her face, looked at her *****, made gyrating motions, and said to her, "how would you like me to r.a.p.e you?" My daughter slapped him in the face and came home crying. She wouldn't tell me why (which breaks my heart) and a little later, my boys told me about it.

I think our media, music, entertainers and athletes often glorify violence. We all buy into it. Until we stop supporting them, it will continue.

I don't think little kids in jr. high are going to stop grabbing girl's *****asses just because all the politicians and Hollyweird producers and directors got fired for doing it. Maybe it's a start in the right direction. People in power make men do things they don't want to do too, it just usually doesn't involve ***sex. What's the difference?

[https://youtu.be/rdoGUtWGgtE]

I think men knocked women over the head and dragged them back to their caves for a long time before they adopted the methods for hooking up with women that are now employed. Throw some kids in a jungle and go back in 15 years and we'll see what society they devise for themselves. Probably the biggest most powerful males will have all the women. Sooo yeah.

I don't think it's as simple as that, personally. In my personal belief/idea (though I know some others won't agree) I think there is something inherently "damaged" in people who see children in inappropriate ways. And furthermore, and regrettably, I don't think it is curable.

I don't think they're "born" with that "damage" though, no. I think in a more simplified explanation, I think that their attractions "stop" developing past a certain age. And while they can't "help" such attractions, such attractions are wrong and far too dangerous or imbalanced.

I say this as a childhood abuse survivor.

I recently got back into contact with the step-daughter of my first childhood abuser (yes, sadly, they were only the first) and my first best friend. She knows what happened to me, and we do NOT try to corroborate our stories - as she felt differently to her step-dad than I did/do (he died in 2014, and I'm not ashamed to say that I threw a party, happily announced it to the world, along with celebrated his death with my parents). She remained close with him, even after all the charges and conviction of his 19 known abuses. I do not feel angry at her for that, but I have told her that I found her post-death of her "brother"/friend, but that I would respect her feelings and not speak badly about him toward her. Just that I missed her, and that I was sorry for following events (her mother/the abusers wife, committed suicide only weeks after my police report)and that I still felt pain for her over it.

Perhaps he changed in 25+ years, I don't know. Or maybe he was never caught again. (It was only after my report that the other previous 18 victims came forward) But I doubt 3 months and 18 months of "community service" was a miracle fix for him. After all, one of his victims was severely developmentally unstable, and even after 25+ years, all including therapy, *I still haven't healed from it. But a magical 3 months imprisonment and 18 months of "good behavior" and he's all cured? Why didn't I get it that easy?

I'd rather not make it personal, however, because you had mentioned that this wasn't a post to speak of personal abuse - I was just using it as an example - yes, I think that it is "ingrained" in them in some way, but as children, it's SORT of "normal" (around a certain age), but if they still have that attraction even as they develop into adults? That's where they are broken.

It is almost as if they are attracted to a person who isn't yet wholly a full human being. One with self-awareness of what is attraction, rational attraction or attractive to themselves (ie; a 6-year-old, is not going to be sexually attracted to a person in their 60's).

While I do feel sorry for such..."people" (although, I'll admit I feel sour using that word myself as I do still hold fear of them and find them repulsive - but that is a personal issue), I also don't agree that it can be "fixed" or "cured" or rehabilitated...whatever the term may be. I think it will always be there, and I don't think that we will ever understand the true cause of it in our lifetimes. Or even our children's and grandchildren's lifetimes.

And among all this rambling (I'm very sorry, as this can sometimes be a bit of a "trigger" subject for me to ramble and speak out on) I have forgotten my conclusion, but I just wanted to giggle at this;

One of my social workers years ago (we're talking late 2006/eleven years ago who was supposed to be trying to "rehabilitate" me into returning to the workforce), questioned of why I was opting to return to school not "looking like a girl" when I spoke about my choice of new clothes for the beginning of the next school year and out-right asked if my choice of baggy clothes and "non-feminine" look was to seem "unappealing/attractive" to the opposite ***sex. We then also had a discussion of why I should wear skirts and make-up to an interview rather than just looking presentable and professional. Apparently to her, "professional" or "serious" meant make-up, fancy hair and high heels.

That wasn't my reason for choosing such attire for going back to school (an adult college which thankfully, uniforms are NOT a rule unlike public high schools). At the time, I just felt comfortable in baggy men's clothing or gender neutral looks. But apparently it meant that I must have been actively trying to "conceal" myself.

But really? Let's face it. "Female" clothes are uncomfortable as poop most of the time! They're not made for comfort, and their pocket space and functionality SUCK. So sue me, I love/loved baggy men's jeans, J-belts and t-shirts and jackets that were three sizes too big.

Nowadays, I have found a style that is still comfortable, but isn't so "thuggish" looking to authorities. Apparently if you dress a certain way, law enforcement or those who like to pretend/think they are, target you as a "danger". It's easier just to look like a a "female" who isn't going out clubbing."

Or it might just be because I'm almost 32 now, and modern hip hop culture is an embarrassment to those who remember its glory days and we don't wish to be associated with the crap it is today. Lol.

It takes a long time for societies to advance. I guess we're better than we ever have been. I still think there are a lot of people that are slaves. The world is a big place, America is better than most.

Odd, generally i hold the same standards to women as i hold to men in a professional environment . Which pretty much comes down to, "wear what is expected for the job". So office meetings, suit/pants suit. Friday in the back on the storage, whatever feels comfy. (Etc. etc.)

But being from northwestern Europe perhaps the culture is a bit different here. The need to look presentable doesn't equal the need to look attractive.

-Legion.

A late add after the complete verbal assault above (I apologize for that).

Personally, I do not see pedophiles and abusers of peers the same thing. I've had experience with both, and I just can't. I don't even have a reason that would seem "credible".

To me, a pedophile is "broken" there is something in them who doesn't always understand that their feelings or actions aren't "okay" (they just feel that the rest of the world doesn't understand/can't help). Of course, some do understand that such feelings/behaviors aren't "right" but are always fear of the "temptation" (a friend of mine has a relative like this...who acknowledges that such thoughts are "wrong" and is open about his worries)

Someone who oversteps the boundaries of consent towards another peer/adult though? I don't think it's a "born with it" issue. I think in a lot of cases, they lack empathy to the point that they either don't "care" how the other person is feeling/doesn't want to), or...they feel overly entitled.

I'm a member of a site that is usually (but sadly, not all the time) extremely focused on trying to counteract ****rape culture with "consent culture". The site is one focused on sexuality and non-vanilla areas of relationships/lifestyles (I won't name names, though, for privacy reasons). There constantly is a clash of opinions were some people feel that another person is "justified" in consent violation behavior, or worse, they don't even see a justification at all, they feel ENTITLED to have what they want, or the assume that the women on the site are automatically there for THEIR convenience and are "easy".

That isn't the case. My issue is that society is not being strict enough on the intolerance of people who violate another person's consent. And in non-pedo circumstances, this makes the offenders feel like the consequences are not a "big deal".

For instance, here in Australia - sexual harassment or even assault that's not "****rape", gets a slap on the wrist. Two years ago, I made a report about someone who made non-consensual actions against me...in front of my non-suspecting parents, no less. All he said was "I have no clue what you're talking about" in the questioning room (three months later) and they just called me randomly and basically told me "he said he didn't do it, oh well...case closed."

When I was 13, my best friend at the time was assaulted by my mother's (now) ex-boyfriend while my mother was in hospital and she and I had a sleepover at our house. At the time, he had made "moves" on me, but I didn't recognize it, but when that incident happened, chaos followed. I realized what had happened to me previously, was less than what happened in my presence (I too, gave a statement to the police...which HE actually called on himself). He got NO time, and a 12 month "good behavior bond". My friend was 13, and completely traumatized. I was put into foster care after a week of staying with her and her family, and we hadn't seen each other since. My own ill mother was blamed for his actions toward me, AND toward my friend. I tried to have him charged as well, but the police wanted dates and exact times that his behavior happened. As if I kept a log of them when he was supposed to be dating my MOTHER and I was only 13. The complaints I did, were dropped and not even investigated. The police officer during the statement told me "You don't have dates and/or times? there's nothing we can do. Sorry."

Maybe it's different elsewhere, but from my experience in Australia...if you're an adult woman, and you haven't been fully *****raped, (even attempted doesn't count) they don't really do much. Hence why I mentioned further above that I feel that accusations are not taken seriously. After I was actually *****raped at 15 and then again at 16...I didn't even bother reporting it anymore.

Which led to a lot of people saying "if you didn't report it, or have them charged...it didn't happen and YOU'RE the liar."

I got pregnant from BOTH of those assaults too.

I'm 31 now and STILL have not had consensual ***sex. I still consider myself a virgin.

(I added this reply just before the previous two, so sorry to add this at the end and make this seem like another ramble....)

Honestly, apart from the "I'm still a virgin" thin I mentioned just now, the memories do not bother me all that much anymore. They probably do in a sense of "***sex is overrated", but other than that, I make a loud point to speak out against sexual abuse/assault/harassment of any kind, and each time, I feel absolutely LIVID when I hear of another case. It brings my passion against it back to the surface and I cannot stay quiet/ignorant about it. I've experienced too much.

That being said though, I find it hard to forgive what has happened to me (more than a couple of times) when I see that nothing has changed. And each time I hear of something new, it reignites that anger and realization.

I have heard that statement. Many times. Whether it be through religious guides or counselors (with the explanation that forgiving the person will help "me", but I just can't do it). I don't think any amount of "healing" will change that. I dealt with it differently, I suppose. When it first happened, I felt resentment over everyone treating me like a fragile doll...I didn't "feel" broken for a long long long time, but people would pity/coddle me and I didn't understand it.

Nowadays, if as an adult, I were to hear one of my loved ones as children had been harmed in such a way...I can assure you riight now, I'd be going to jail. Thankfully, two of my nieces have a fantastic mother who has raised them into their teens to be smart, strong, and G-d help anyone who would try to harm them in such a way. My nephew, knows better than to ever look down or feel above/below another woman. My new 1-year-old niece has parents who would defend her and knows they have an aunt who would take a bullet for her. My youngest niece, despite my severed relationship with her parents will always know that her aunt would protect her with her life to not have the same childhood her aunt and father did.

I've learned from my past even though I haven't necessarily forgiven those who created it. In some weird way, I might be even thankful for it, because it made me able to, and determined to protect my younger loved ones from enduring the same torture.

Even my friends know that I would stand in the way of someone who would wish to hurt them.

These days, my anger is my greatest strength, and it is fueled by the injustice done to those I love, or to those I feel the need to protect. including those I haven't met.

I wonder if that made even 75% of sense? Lol.

Men are accountable for their bad behavior. From the slightest infraction to the most horrific. For their doings the lose their reputation. They lose their family. They lose their wealth. They lose their homes, vehicles and 'toys.' They lose body parts; eyes, hands, noses, *********testicles, their crock. They lose years of their life in prison' comparable or exceedent to killers and murderers.
For what men do to others, they pay....
What you do to your own self? That's your business. No one - and I mean no one - is accountable for how you treat yourself. You can love yourself and heal in far more ways than remain in perpetual mourning.

I completely agree! Those who get caught doing such horrible things, pay dearly (or should, for those who DON'T end up having to face the consequences). No arguments here.

Those who are victims however, can choose to heal, or can choose to NOT.

On some things, I have healed. But I know there are some crimes against me that I haven't. And that is on me, I'll admit. Sometimes I blame the people who did it to me for having to face/heal from it. Sometimes, I'll blame it on myself for not being strong enough at the time to stop it. I sometimes go through at least a dozen scenarios of how it could have been avoided, but it will never make a difference now. Which is why I became cautious for the present and future. Thinking of all the scenarios that could happen.

And to be honest, the latter cautiousness and protection that I have practiced...have significantly reduced the instances where I've been harmed. So, it's working at least. :P Even if the consequences of such worry have meant that I engage in much less human interaction.

It's only right to blame the person for the damages - because they were the ones who caused it...but they aren't going to be the ones responsible for your healing(how can they?)
This isn't a question - how is it that women/girls do to themselves worse than what was done to them? Part of me does not fathom, other parts of me do. Another part of me wants to yell out - "Stop making the perp look good!"
The best revenge is to live well - better yet, as if nothing happened at all - you need all your sails working to navigate properly. The stars are yours.

I completely agree, @BA1 I know it is me that need to heal, and it is no longer on those people (especially since one of them is dead). But I think a part of me feel the need to stay angry, because it prevents me from being too gullible and too trustworthy. I feel like my anger saves me...in some weird way.

And, though I know it wasn't a question, I can answer at least from my own point of view:

I blamed myself because I felt like I should have just "taken it" (in the instances that were not "aggressive"). I blamed myself because as mentioned above, my best friend's mother killed herself over it, and the other victims only came forward because I spoke up and went to the police. My best friend lost her mother at only eight years old because I followed the advice of counselors and my parents. AKA - I didn't keep my mouth shut.

I blamed myself because I didn't tell my mother what her boyfriend was doing to me BEFORE he harmed my best friend.

I blamed myself because I let him get away with assaulting me, in my own house, with my best friend/roommate sleeping next door because I had been "drinking" I was "unlovable" and "unable" to have my boundaries "respected" because I wasn't popular and thought that it was the only way anyone would ever think of me...as a "toy".

I blamed myself because my parents and other adults told me that because I was a "victim" at a young age, that it was like a "target" on my head and those seeking an "easy target" could sense it and I became their prey. I basically blamed myself for making said past "noticable".

I blamed myself because society constantly todl me (and still tells me) that I should have been the one to protect or handle myself better. That I should have spoken up sooner, that I should have fought, screamed (even if a knife was at my neck that one time...because apparently risking being killed is more "brave") or told someone immediately.

I blamed myself, basically because in a lot of my cases....everyone ELSE did.

@Aria
You've been through quite a lot and frankly it's a miracle you have retained the sense to see just where you're at - so many others don't.
There's always going to be the echos of aftermath and ponderings of the future (in some cases, the next minute).
The box of Pandora is ajar with regard to the original content of the post and your experience(s).
I must digress for the respect of all because my own issues are completely unrelated, yet...for what my two cents is worth...there it is.
Please drop a shout of you'd like to talk.
My time has come.
-BA1-

' I feel like my anger saves me...in some weird way.' what do you mean by this?

As I said above, Silverset. It is the fuel that keeps me being wary and not too quick to trust. I'm not in general, an angry person. In fact, I used to be quite a doormat and believe that I could trust almost anyone and everyone. No matter how many times I got hurt otherwise. I would trust first, before that person earned my trust.

At some point though, I just snapped (I'm talking within the last 10 years since Old Help here) and I find that being disappointed or expecting the worst FIRST, leaves less pain when they actually do mess up. It protects me emotionally and physically, because I prevented myself from being too emotionally invested.

I'm no longer a "target", because I don't paint my own bullseye.

Maybe it's the lack of masculine role models in families these days. My dad taught me how to treat women by example. Here's a pretty good blurb on the subject.
https://www.facebook.com/FoxNewsInsider/videos/...

But to be honest most of these guys that are doing what they are doing in Washington and Hollywood were raised by another generation, the traditional family values crowd. I guess I really don't have the answer, but I still think things are improving and compared to a lot of other places America is great. Nothing's perfect and I'm sorry for all the people that have been molested. It's definitely not your fault.

To be honest I almost feel it's not okay for men not to act this way.. does that make sense? When I was in school if you weren't grabbing girls and talking about them sexually other guys looked at you like you were wired wrong. Yeah it's come a long way from knocking girls over the head and dragging them back to your cave but not really. Kind of hurts to say that.

And I've had girls come out and ask me if I'm gay because I didn't hit on them. Why didn't you ever ask me out, don't you like girls?

I would say well hell why didn't you ever smile at me? I kind of look for women to give me the eye and let me know that they want to be pursued. I don't just go up to every pretty girl I see and ask them if they want to hook up. Really I think it is more of a communication problem. How men go about pursuing women and just how much they are supposed to fight against the man. I kind of think women are programmed to say NO the first couple of times so you don't think they are too "easy" even if no doesn't mean no. I've had girls ask me that too. Why did you only ask me out once? Because you said no... Well I just didn't want you to think I was a ****slut, if you really liked me you would have tried harder.

Yes..... proof is in the pervasiveness of "boys will be boys" as an excuse for behavior

Men are typically dominant. Not saying that women can't be....

If you think about it and are honest with yourself... most men can overpower most women. Starting around age 16-60's.... men will be stronger than women, physically. And while women think about many things at once, men have a one track mind (not thinking solely sexually here... it's in all aspects of daily life) and are intently focused on the task at hand. Differences in biology.

This means that men can overpower women with ease, in most cases. (NOT ALL men, NOT ALL women, not all cases)

I think that all through history, men have taken advantage of this in ALL situations (not just to overpower women) and that the bad men.... or even entire bad societies who allow certain behaviors (or maybe not even "allow," but "look away") men have had many women and children victims. It becimes a generational and multi generational and even societal learned behavior that is almost ingrained and is hard to change.

Communication, empathy, understanding, and knowledge lead to change... and it takes TIME...even generations...to change. But there is no empathy or understanding without open and honest communication.

Think about the suffragettes and how resistant society(even other women) were to the change... and about the hardships those ladies endured to affect that change.... and it wasn't that long ago! My great grandmother never voted for a president... and I KNEW her (she passed when I was 15)

As a male individual, I cannot apologize for the crimes of men because I am not the man committing the crime.
I cannot/will not apologize for being a man, and less for having a standard stock of sexual drive and desire. I can only account for my own moral center and what I do with my sexuality.

I came from divorced parents and was primarily raised by my mom. I guarded my sexuality as a result of that and knew to respect women (in many ways) as I would my mom.

Long long ago, in a time far far away, someone put their hand into a fire.

- And are now comming to light from the momentum these pains have caused...

What culture are we talking about? If it's the Euro/American culture, then what era are you viewing?
The stress seems to still befall WASP "Christian" males raised with "traditional" family values. Why would anyone want to appreciate predictable collateral damage that results from its imperfections?
There's a monster on the horizon and it's going to make pale any current victory that's comming out of the shadows of abuse....
Are your bathrooms safe? Are all the lights on? There's very little consideration for the monsters being created by the far left LGBT...."culture."
There are now more ways to "sexually identify," than there are gods in India. The crimes from that mindset will prevail sooner than later and no court on earth will have the skill to deal with the laws which "empowered" that.

And Matt Lauer is getting fired for sexual misconduct in the workplace. I'm still scratching my head on what exactly he did. All these women are getting people fired because they were touched? I have to say that I don't usually go up and grab women but I have done it. In fact the most memorable time was long ago when I was maybe 22 or so and I saw this girl I had known a few years earlier because we lived in the same apartment complex when she was 15 or 16...

So anyway it's a few years later and I see her at an outdoor concert and grab her ***ass. She slaps the holy ****shit out of me and I just laugh... she's like Ralph what are you doing here? I'm sorry I hit you, and you have a big red handprint on your face. Yeah sweetheart I have a boo boo why don't you kiss it and make it better? Then after a few kisses she asks me if I drove and I said why don't we go back to my car and you can make it a whole lot better? She did. So the lesson I learned was that grabbing some ***ass can pay off in a big way fast.

Men are pretty much Neanderthals at heart and have a hard time trying to seduce women. If a girl wants to be seduced touching them in a personal manner lets them know what's up and works. At least that's what I've seen. I don't think that's going to change any time soon.