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would u take a job that's a bit higher pressure and 30-45 minutes away for 80 dollars more a week?

it is inbound call center sales and is 2 dollars an hour more plus commission on sales.

the job i have now is right across the street, with low sales expectations.

it's tougher physically. the call center job may be lots higher stress.


just not sure what to do..

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Tough call as call centers don't last long but money will if you save it.
Hard on the brain as well, but remember they only last 5 years at the most. They send the jobs to India first chance they get.

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I wouldn't do it. I dont think your gaining enough and it's harder and sort of far.
If its 30-45 away that's over an hour just driving each day for work
I feel gas would take alot ot that additional money
But it's an hour+ more of your free time spend just going there and home

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Boiler rooms. That is how they are described.

Run, do not walk, away.

Of all the jobs on earth, telemarketing sucks the most.

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I have a friend who's been working in a call center for over 30 years, she started doing it when she was 16 and is still there. She says she likes it, and she makes good money too. J.C. Penney, they take orders over the phone it's not telemarketing or short term, and she's now eligible for retirement benefits. I'd switch jobs for two more dollars an hour, hell I usually drive a couple of hours a day.

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Some boiler room's, as Sherlock calls them, do flex between campaigns from out-bound sales to in-bound sales. I worked in one that is still here locally.

Sold hurricane Windows one week and took orders for the Vermont Teddybear Company the next just weeks before Valentine's Day.

In-bound calls are so much better.

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Very high turnover in phone sales too. Just know they already hate you before they pick up their phone. If you can keep them on the phone PAST 15 seconds you might have a 50/50 chance to get them to cooperate with your canned sales pitch.

Keep in mind, most sales calls are made 2-3 times to the same household. If they hang up on you within that first 15 seconds, the angrier they will be for the second and third phone call. And you are not told if that number was tried by a coworker just days sometimes minutes before.

I'd start by taking a mathematical approach.
Assume a base wage of $13 and 40h/w (5 workdays). Start with a simple base case - another 1hr drive per workday, which I'm simply counting as equal to work (theoretically taking a part time job at the same rate). Overlook for simplification the extra transportation cost, occasional terrible traffic jams, risks of driving and possible benefits of walking (or detriments, depending on how heavy traffic is in your residential area).

Weekly wage: 520 | 600.
Hourly wage including travel: 13 | 13.33.
Gross yearly wage: 27040 | 31200.
Net yearly wage: 23357 | 26700.
Net hourly wage including travel: 11.23 | 11.41.

So the extra $2 just cover expenses.
The more important factor is whether you're satisfied with the current status, including but not limited to the wage, and knowing your alternatives. You could ask for a quarter dollar increase (note that you should always ask for more and negotiate down), they might oblige or refuse but if you're all burnt out it won't matter.

Commission is another wild card depending on the product and personal salesmanship skill, which might be sold in exchange for integrity & stress, whose values are inconsistent.

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I have to say: nothing beats walking across the street for work. I had a job like that. Soooo convenient. Better for going home for lunch or breaks. (Money saving) Great on gas/car wear and tear (zero).

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soco wrote:
Very high turnover in phone sales too. Just know they already hate you before they pick up their phone. If you can keep them on the phone PAST 15 seconds you might have a 50/50 chance to get them to cooperate with your canned sales pitch.

Keep in mind, most sales calls are made 2-3 times to the same household. If they hang up on you within that first 15 seconds, the angrier they will be for the second and third phone call. And you are not told if that number was tried by a coworker just days sometimes minutes before.

Cold calling is dead. As Soco astutely notes, people hate you before they even pick up the phone.

I installed a device on my stateside phone that stops robocallers dead--and just about all telemarketing firms use robocallers. When a robocall comes in, my device asks it to punch in a number on the keypad. But since the robocalling computer cannot understand or act on commands like that, it doesn't punch in the number and gets hung up on. In one year my device stopped over 2,000 robocalls--or about six a day! I did not have to get up from the supper table or the couch to answer a telemarketer's call!

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As desperate as I am for a job right now to the point I'd resort to burying my arms up to my elbows in dirty dishwater for 16 hours a day for minimum wage - I'm still not desperate enough to resort to telemarketing. You'll get abused, screamed at, ignored, and if you already have self-esteem issues, it could take a sledgehammer to them and make you feel even worse.

In my opinion? It wouldn't be worth the extra $80 unless you were really really desperate and you had no other alternative.

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I'd say the extra 2hrs or so commuting each day, which is unpaid work as far as I'm concerned, nixes it right there. Add to that the transportation expense and it looks worse & worse. Also, maybe 4ake into account wear & tear insofar as the commute turns, let's say, an 8hr work day into a 10hr one.. and that adds up to burnout.

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On two occasions I did commutes of 2 1/2 hours one way. Never again. Long commutes cost you a fortune in gas, make your car and its components wear out faster, increase your chances of being in an accident and burn you out. I have passed up a number of job offers with commutes 3 and 4 hours away. There's just no way to physically do it without killing yourself.

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i decided to stick with the job i have. the icing on the cake was when they sent a contradictory email. one said "we are making a preliminary job offer, but do not quit your current job until the background check and drug screen is done and we make a final offer"

After asking if this Tuesday would be good to start the background check and drug screen since it's my first day off from my current job i received another email saying "no we need to get it started today"

i took that as evidence that their left hand doesn't know what their right hand is doing so much and could really be a sign this place is really a cluster ***fuk. i ignored the second email and chose to stay with my current job.

while the commission sales might be nice, the drive there and back is historically awful, and wear and tear on the car concerns as well as other expenses....

i just couldn't bite that bullet right now.

thank you all for your advice. i think this is for the best. i will write them a new email saying i appreciate the opportunity but maybe should wait till next time.

the current job doesn't pay as much, but it's right across the street. saves gas, wear and tear on car, and they even feed me occasionally reducing my cost of living.

occasionally on a good day, vendors will even offer up perfectly good items they remove from our store to send back because they're close to being expired or whatever reason. things like loaves of bread even that are really handy.

i had a former job that paid for a business phone and car insurance as a perk. i had to be laid off from the job sadly before i took the gas station job. even though i was let go, i still update their websites and get to keep the perks as my fee each month.

since i don't have to pay for my phone or car insurance, n my mom helps with the car payment...as long as this job can pay rent and buy food when they're not feeding me then it's the easiest and most financially sound choice i can make right now i think.

i've worked for inbound call center sales before. it's ok. it's not a horrible environment at all of them(some of them totally suck for sure).

but it's just not worth it right now considering the distance and time it'd eat up.

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I feel that you made the right decision. I believe that only 0.00059347 of the population can make a living off commissions only. And to think you'd be doing a long commute, eventually dreading every kilometer that you drove closer to work, just reinforces my conclusion.

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:) Good to know you're not stuck there.

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Good news Pinocchio

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Yeah, wut they said. Commutes really suck.

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